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  • Am I the only one hoping for a mind controlled (dark) Donatello? XD I mean c'mon, Shredder wants to turn Karai back to normal, and he knows Donatello is smart. also he doesn't know that he tried to turn Karai normal and failed, so it wouldn't be illogical of him to go after Donnie.

    Just saying....

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    • I don't think he wants to turn Karai back to normal, I'm pretty sure he's gonna use the mind control serum on her to get her to rejoin him.  He may take advantage of her mutation and use her to kill Splinter.  He could also get her to reveal where the lair is.

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    • TamTheThunder wrote:
      Am I the only one hoping for a mind controlled (dark) Donatello? XD

      I mean c'mon, Shredder wants to turn Karai back to normal, and he knows Donatello is smart. also he doesn't know that he tried to turn Karai normal and failed, so it wouldn't be illogical of him to go after Donnie.

      Just saying....

      Well what I think will happen is that he will mind control Karai and then cornor the turtles. 

      And what I think is that he will tell Karai to hold off Leo's brother while Shredder battles Leo. At one point Leo screams out in pain or something and Karai can break out of the mind control and attacks Shredder to save Leo. Leo tries to get Karai to come with him but the Mind control stuff starts kicking back in and Leo and his brothers know that she will be control again and leave but leo makes a promise to save her. Later Tiger Claw as Shredder why he wanted to battle Leo and Shredder says it's because Leo is getting stronger. A little too stronger and he doesn't want another person to be as strong as him and Splinter.

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    • First Shredder wants to kill splinter, now he wants to rule nyc and possibly...beyond.

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    • Here are  some possibilities of what I think might happen

      1. The shredder might use the formula to turn the turtles against splinter 

      2. He will use it on Karai who he will use to lure out splinter 

      3. He will use it on NYC and April's dad [and like showdown capture april] but this time april will use her powers and skills to escape and find the turtles and splinter. she will then find a way to break the trance and save them.   

      4. He will use it on Karai and she will fight the turtles 

      5. karai will be used to fight April but this time april will win and free karai. 

      6. leo will free karai from the shredder's control by making her remember him.  

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    • Purple500 wrote: Here are  some possibilities of what I think might happen

      1. The shredder might use the formula to turn the turtles against splinter 

      2. He will use it on Karai who he will use to lure out splinter 

      3. He will use it on NYC and April's dad [and like showdown capture april] but this time april will use her powers and skills to escape and find the turtles and splinter. she will then find a way to break the trance and save them.   

      4. He will use it on Karai and she will fight the turtles 

      5. karai will be used to fight April but this time april will win and free karai. 

      6. leo will free karai from the shredder's control by making her remember him.  

      I think he will first use the formula on Karai to test it, and if it works, he will use her to destroy Splinter, then April will fight her and use her psychic powers to free her from Shredder's control before she kills him, and save her mind from fading away.

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    • DPfanboy wrote:

      Purple500 wrote: Here are  some possibilities of what I think might happen

      1. The shredder might use the formula to turn the turtles against splinter 

      2. He will use it on Karai who he will use to lure out splinter 

      3. He will use it on NYC and April's dad [and like showdown capture april] but this time april will use her powers and skills to escape and find the turtles and splinter. she will then find a way to break the trance and save them.   

      4. He will use it on Karai and she will fight the turtles 

      5. karai will be used to fight April but this time april will win and free karai. 

      6. leo will free karai from the shredder's control by making her remember him.  

      I think he will first use the formula on Karai to test it, and if it works, he will use her to destroy Splinter, then April will fight her and use her psychic powers to free her from Shredder's control, and save her mind from fading away.

      that's also a possibilty. I never thought about that. 

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    • 3695331-5111829108-dark-
      THIS needs to happen!
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    • Fernando Pandha wrote:
      3695331-5111829108-dark-
      THIS needs to happen!

      DEFINTELY!

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    • Also, I really want to see Donnie mind-controlled, it would be a good way to introduce a character like Agent Bishop (from the 2003 series). And, it'd be interesting to see what the Turtles would do to get back Donnie...

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    • I actually discussed this with my friends and thought it would be hilarious if Mikey was mind controlled. Like the Shredder maybe aimed for Leo but Mikey got in the way, and then the Shredder would try to use Mikey to his advantage but Mikey would suck so much at being a villain that it would actually be more comical than serious. I know everyone wants Dark Leo but too much has happened in this series to him.  Let's have a Mikey moment!!!

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    • Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      I actually discussed this with my friends and thought it would be hilarious if Mikey was mind controlled. Like the Shredder maybe aimed for Leo but Mikey got in the way, and then the Shredder would try to use Mikey to his advantage but Mikey would suck so much at being a villain that it would actually be more comical than serious. I know everyone wants Dark Leo but too much has happened in this series to him.  Let's have a Mikey moment!!!

      Ok... I change my mind... MIKEY would be better, it would be funny to watch him trying to be a villiain!

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    • BlazeinBoots wrote:
      Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      I actually discussed this with my friends and thought it would be hilarious if Mikey was mind controlled. Like the Shredder maybe aimed for Leo but Mikey got in the way, and then the Shredder would try to use Mikey to his advantage but Mikey would suck so much at being a villain that it would actually be more comical than serious. I know everyone wants Dark Leo but too much has happened in this series to him.  Let's have a Mikey moment!!!
      Ok... I change my mind... MIKEY would be better, it would be funny to watch him trying yo be a villiain!

      YES!!! I KNEW THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA!!!!

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    • Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      I actually discussed this with my friends and thought it would be hilarious if Mikey was mind controlled. Like the Shredder maybe aimed for Leo but Mikey got in the way, and then the Shredder would try to use Mikey to his advantage but Mikey would suck so much at being a villain that it would actually be more comical than serious. I know everyone wants Dark Leo but too much has happened in this series to him.  Let's have a Mikey moment!!!
      Ok... I change my mind... MIKEY would be better, it would be funny to watch him trying yo be a villiain!
      YES!!! I KNEW THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA!!!!

      LOL! I really would want to watch that as an episode. And yes... "GOOD IDEA!!!!".

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    • BlazeinBoots wrote:
      Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      I actually discussed this with my friends and thought it would be hilarious if Mikey was mind controlled. Like the Shredder maybe aimed for Leo but Mikey got in the way, and then the Shredder would try to use Mikey to his advantage but Mikey would suck so much at being a villain that it would actually be more comical than serious. I know everyone wants Dark Leo but too much has happened in this series to him.  Let's have a Mikey moment!!!
      Ok... I change my mind... MIKEY would be better, it would be funny to watch him trying yo be a villiain!
      YES!!! I KNEW THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA!!!!
      LOL! I really would want to watch that as an episode. And yes... "GOOD IDEA!!!!".

      I wish I could email the directors with this!

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    • Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      I actually discussed this with my friends and thought it would be hilarious if Mikey was mind controlled. Like the Shredder maybe aimed for Leo but Mikey got in the way, and then the Shredder would try to use Mikey to his advantage but Mikey would suck so much at being a villain that it would actually be more comical than serious. I know everyone wants Dark Leo but too much has happened in this series to him.  Let's have a Mikey moment!!!
      Ok... I change my mind... MIKEY would be better, it would be funny to watch him trying yo be a villiain!
      YES!!! I KNEW THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA!!!!
      LOL! I really would want to watch that as an episode. And yes... "GOOD IDEA!!!!".
      I wish I could email the directors with this!

      Well we'll have to see what they come up with! And if it's not Mikey then I would be pretty surprised!

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    • BlazeinBoots wrote:
      Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      I actually discussed this with my friends and thought it would be hilarious if Mikey was mind controlled. Like the Shredder maybe aimed for Leo but Mikey got in the way, and then the Shredder would try to use Mikey to his advantage but Mikey would suck so much at being a villain that it would actually be more comical than serious. I know everyone wants Dark Leo but too much has happened in this series to him.  Let's have a Mikey moment!!!
      Ok... I change my mind... MIKEY would be better, it would be funny to watch him trying yo be a villiain!
      YES!!! I KNEW THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA!!!!
      LOL! I really would want to watch that as an episode. And yes... "GOOD IDEA!!!!".
      I wish I could email the directors with this!
      Well we'll have to see what they come up with! And if it's not Mikey then I would be pretty surprised!

      Same here.

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    • As much as a surprise twist (my idea twist anyway) that Shredder uses the formula on Splinter to have him destroy his own family (hey come on, Rat King did it) would be shocking, as would it be that Shredder uses the turtles to target Splinter, I believe Donetello's theory of using in on all of the citizens of New York to be the most accurate.


      jD001

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    • JaneDoe001 wrote: As much as a surprise twist (my idea twist anyway) that Shredder uses the formula on Splinter to have him destroy his own family (hey come on, Rat King did it) would be shocking, as would it be that Shredder uses the turtles to target Splinter, I believe Donetello's theory of using in on all of the citizens of New York to be the most accurate.


      jD001

      True, and the fact that Shredder is using a factory to mass produce one of the ingredients also supports that.

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    • DPfanboy wrote:

      JaneDoe001 wrote: As much as a surprise twist (my idea twist anyway) that Shredder uses the formula on Splinter to have him destroy his own family (hey come on, Rat King did it) would be shocking, as would it be that Shredder uses the turtles to target Splinter, I believe Donetello's theory of using in on all of the citizens of New York to be the most accurate.


      jD001

      True, and the fact that Shredder is using a factory to mass produce one of the ingredients also supports that.

      I don't think that Shredder would use it on Splinter- or at least right away. Shredder would want to see Splinter suffer seeing his sons trying to kill eachother etc. And then with the mass amount of the mind control formula in the factory might be because of either different methods of making it and seeing which one is best, or turning into grenade type weapons in an attempt to turn whoever on Shredder's side.

      So, Shredder would need a mass amount for numerous attempt...

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    • here's what I want to happen 1.shedder mind control Karai to lure Leo to him

      2.leo got mind control and the team try to save them but shedder capture Mikey and use mind control on him(just because it'll be cool)

      3.Raph n Don try to help them but got only Mikey and Karai and show a family picture to Mikey(the one from the invasion) and use April's power on Karai

      4.after that they go to shedder lair and fight with the foot(include Leo) and show the picture to Leo but it doesn't work so Karai try to make him remember her and his family like he did to her in the pig and the rhino episode and it worked

      5.they save new York!!!!

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    • OH MY GOD GUYS I JUST SAW THE COMMERCIAL FOR THE NEW EPISODES AND IT"S GONNA BE RAPH THAT GETS MIND CONTROLLED BY THE SHREDDER!!!!! I CAN'T CONTAIN MYSELF RIGHT NOW THEY SHOWED HIM FIGHTING LEO WITH THE SHREDDER'S HAND KNIFE THINGS!!!!! OOOOOOHHHHH MYYYYYYY GOOOOOOD!!

      And they also showed Muckman and Mondo Gecko so yeah.

      APRIL 26th PEOPLE!!!

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    • Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      OH MY GOD GUYS I JUST SAW THE COMMERCIAL FOR THE NEW EPISODES AND IT"S GONNA BE RAPH THAT GETS MIND CONTROLLED BY THE SHREDDER!!!!! I CAN'T CONTAIN MYSELF RIGHT NOW THEY SHOWED HIM FIGHTING LEO WITH THE SHREDDER'S HAND KNIFE THINGS!!!!! OOOOOOHHHHH MYYYYYYY GOOOOOOD!!

      And they also showed Muckman and Mondo Gecko so yeah.

      APRIL 26th PEOPLE!!!

      WHERE WAS THIS? I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND IT FOR AGES!!!

      By the way, when you said "And they also showed Muckman and Mondo Gecko so yeah." You don't exactly seem so excited about that... fair enough though really, the mind control thing is way more interesting and tense.

      I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE MIND CONTROL EPISODE!!!!!!

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    • BlazeinBoots wrote:
      Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      OH MY GOD GUYS I JUST SAW THE COMMERCIAL FOR THE NEW EPISODES AND IT"S GONNA BE RAPH THAT GETS MIND CONTROLLED BY THE SHREDDER!!!!! I CAN'T CONTAIN MYSELF RIGHT NOW THEY SHOWED HIM FIGHTING LEO WITH THE SHREDDER'S HAND KNIFE THINGS!!!!! OOOOOOHHHHH MYYYYYYY GOOOOOOD!!

      And they also showed Muckman and Mondo Gecko so yeah.

      APRIL 26th PEOPLE!!!

      WHERE WAS THIS? I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND IT FOR AGES!!!

      By the way, when you said "And they also showed Muckman and Mondo Gecko so yeah." You don't exactly seem so excited about that... fair enough though really, the mind control thing is way more interesting and tense.

      I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE MIND CONTROL EPISODE!!!!!

      It was on Nickelodeon just this morning! Oh, and I am excited about Muckman and Mondo Gecko but the mind control thing made me fangirl the freak out!

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    • Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      Jadepalacetrainee wrote:
      OH MY GOD GUYS I JUST SAW THE COMMERCIAL FOR THE NEW EPISODES AND IT"S GONNA BE RAPH THAT GETS MIND CONTROLLED BY THE SHREDDER!!!!! I CAN'T CONTAIN MYSELF RIGHT NOW THEY SHOWED HIM FIGHTING LEO WITH THE SHREDDER'S HAND KNIFE THINGS!!!!! OOOOOOHHHHH MYYYYYYY GOOOOOOD!!

      And they also showed Muckman and Mondo Gecko so yeah.

      APRIL 26th PEOPLE!!!

      WHERE WAS THIS? I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND IT FOR AGES!!!

      By the way, when you said "And they also showed Muckman and Mondo Gecko so yeah." You don't exactly seem so excited about that... fair enough though really, the mind control thing is way more interesting and tense.

      I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE MIND CONTROL EPISODE!!!!!

      It was on Nickelodeon just this morning! Oh, and I am excited about Muckman and Mondo Gecko but the mind control thing made me fangirl the freak out!

      Dang! I don't have Nickelodeon (on TV) hopefully it's on the website... (Mr Burns hand gesture) Mwah ha ha... 

      BTW if anyone finds a link to the commercial, please can you put it on here. I'm metophorically on my knees!

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    • File:The Noxious Avenger Other Episodes (promo)
      Here's the video with Muckman, Mondo Gecko and the mind controlled Raphael.
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    • Nobody expected Raphael! :P When i saw it i couldn't believe in that. This episode will be awesome!

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    • Wow, Shredder completed the mind control formula already?  I thought it was gonna be the arc for the next half of the season.

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    • DPfanboy wrote:
      Wow, Shredder completed the mind control formula already?  I thought it was gonna be the arc for the next half of the season.

      Dude, we already are in the second half of the season.


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    • Fernando Pandha wrote:

      DPfanboy wrote:
      Wow, Shredder completed the mind control formula already?  I thought it was gonna be the arc for the next half of the season.

      Dude, we already are in the second half of the season.


      Yeah, I was talking about the second half of this season. What I meant to say was I thought Shredder wouldn't finish the formula until later into the season.

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    • Fernando Pandha wrote:

      File:The Noxious Avenger Other Episodes (promo)
      Here's the video with Muckman, Mondo Gecko and the mind controlled Raphael.

      WOW!!! THAT UNEXPECTED BUT IT'S AWESOME!!!! I'M SO EXCITED THAT I CHEWING THE SPOON WHILE EATING ICE-CREAM!!!!

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    • what i think will happen is that the gang sneaked in to find karai where they found her last time and shredder knew they'd look here and mind controlled Raph our of no where Raph attacks Leo and Leo manages to escape tho

      Leo heads back to the lair and explains what happened and this time Mikey and donnie comes (and maybe Splinter) they 4 head to shredders lair and face off against the foot and when they are done with the foot bots Raph, Tiger claw, Fish face and Razhar are next up but April and casey arrive.  As the group are facing them Shredder throws mind control stuff at Mikey, Casey, April and Donnie

      This is where i have two different parts of the story

      1st different form of this story is that Leo is not mind control and is out number and then cornered which is when Shredder tells him to give up. Leo doesn't tho and jumps, pushes and slices his way through the group and heads over to attack shredder but Karai jumps into the way and attacks leo cause she two is being controlled. But during the fight Leo keeps trying so hard for her to remember who she is and it works. Shredder then jumps in and attacks Leo and they have a fight but Karai knows another way to stop this time control thing and that is with a very loud high pitch noise so she goes to start the fire alarm but as she is trying to her snake side keeps trying to turn her mind into a snake again and when Leo is about to be finished off she manages to turn on the fire alarms and the noise sets everyone free. As Shredder turns his back to Leo trying to figure whats going on Leo attacks him from the back and uses a smoke bomb to escape with everyone. When they head home karai had come to but doesn't seem to act like a snake anymore. Donnie uses some lab stuff and finds out that the mind control stuff had given her control over her brain again.

      2nd version of the story is that if Splinter came Leo, Donnie and Mikey end up two getting controlled and the Shredder makes them fight Splinter but Splinter doesn't want to fight them and tries his best to dough them and see's that Baxter has a group of buttons that are used to control the turtles so he heads that way and gets past his sons one by one but when he gets up to Leo it seems he has to fight him as it harder to past him but Splinter say somethings that makes Leo hesitate and gives Splinter the chance to pass him. Splinter goes to turn off the control stuff but Shredder and him have another battle but Splinter manages to turn it off and the group escape

      hope you like ^^    

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    • Crystalmoon101 wrote: what i think will happen is that the gang sneaked in to find karai where they found her last time and shredder knew they'd look here and mind controlled Raph our of no where Raph attacks Leo and Leo manages to escape tho

      Leo heads back to the lair and explains what happened and this time Mikey and donnie comes (and maybe Splinter) they 4 head to shredders lair and face off against the foot and when they are done with the foot bots Raph, Tiger claw, Fish face and Razhar are next up but April and casey arrive.  As the group are facing them Shredder throws mind control stuff at Mikey, Casey, April and Donnie

      This is where i have two different parts of the story

      1st different form of this story is that Leo is not mind control and is out number and then cornered which is when Shredder tells him to give up. Leo doesn't tho and jumps, pushes and slices his way through the group and heads over to attack shredder but Karai jumps into the way and attacks leo cause she two is being controlled. But during the fight Leo keeps trying so hard for her to remember who she is and it works. Shredder then jumps in and attacks Leo and they have a fight but Karai knows another way to stop this time control thing and that is with a very loud high pitch noise so she goes to start the fire alarm but as she is trying to her snake side keeps trying to turn her mind into a snake again and when Leo is about to be finished off she manages to turn on the fire alarms and the noise sets everyone free. As Shredder turns his back to Leo trying to figure whats going on Leo attacks him from the back and uses a smoke bomb to escape with everyone. When they head home karai had come to but doesn't seem to act like a snake anymore. Donnie uses some lab stuff and finds out that the mind control stuff had given her control over her brain again.

      2nd version of the story is that if Splinter came Leo, Donnie and Mikey end up two getting controlled and the Shredder makes them fight Splinter but Splinter doesn't want to fight them and tries his best to dough them and see's that Baxter has a group of buttons that are used to control the turtles so he heads that way and gets past his sons one by one but when he gets up to Leo it seems he has to fight him as it harder to past him but Splinter say somethings that makes Leo hesitate and gives Splinter the chance to pass him. Splinter goes to turn off the control stuff but Shredder and him have another battle but Splinter manages to turn it off and the group escape

      hope you like ^^    

      actually, the 2nd one is quite cool, I want that to happen, but I don't know that it will though, cool idea anyway

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    • Creamercrumble7150 wrote:

      Crystalmoon101 wrote: what i think will happen is that the gang sneaked in to find karai where they found her last time and shredder knew they'd look here and mind controlled Raph our of no where Raph attacks Leo and Leo manages to escape tho

      Leo heads back to the lair and explains what happened and this time Mikey and donnie comes (and maybe Splinter) they 4 head to shredders lair and face off against the foot and when they are done with the foot bots Raph, Tiger claw, Fish face and Razhar are next up but April and casey arrive.  As the group are facing them Shredder throws mind control stuff at Mikey, Casey, April and Donnie

      This is where i have two different parts of the story

      1st different form of this story is that Leo is not mind control and is out number and then cornered which is when Shredder tells him to give up. Leo doesn't tho and jumps, pushes and slices his way through the group and heads over to attack shredder but Karai jumps into the way and attacks leo cause she two is being controlled. But during the fight Leo keeps trying so hard for her to remember who she is and it works. Shredder then jumps in and attacks Leo and they have a fight but Karai knows another way to stop this time control thing and that is with a very loud high pitch noise so she goes to start the fire alarm but as she is trying to her snake side keeps trying to turn her mind into a snake again and when Leo is about to be finished off she manages to turn on the fire alarms and the noise sets everyone free. As Shredder turns his back to Leo trying to figure whats going on Leo attacks him from the back and uses a smoke bomb to escape with everyone. When they head home karai had come to but doesn't seem to act like a snake anymore. Donnie uses some lab stuff and finds out that the mind control stuff had given her control over her brain again.

      2nd version of the story is that if Splinter came Leo, Donnie and Mikey end up two getting controlled and the Shredder makes them fight Splinter but Splinter doesn't want to fight them and tries his best to dough them and see's that Baxter has a group of buttons that are used to control the turtles so he heads that way and gets past his sons one by one but when he gets up to Leo it seems he has to fight him as it harder to past him but Splinter say somethings that makes Leo hesitate and gives Splinter the chance to pass him. Splinter goes to turn off the control stuff but Shredder and him have another battle but Splinter manages to turn it off and the group escape

      hope you like ^^    

      actually, the 2nd one is quite cool, I want that to happen, but I don't know that it will though, cool idea anyway

      Here's mine:

      Creamercrumble7150 wrote:

      Crystalmoon101 wrote: what i think will happen is that the gang sneaked in to find karai where they found her last time and shredder knew they'd look here and mind controlled Raph our of no where Raph attacks Leo and Leo manages to escape tho

      Leo heads back to the lair and explains what happened and this time Mikey and donnie comes (and maybe Splinter) they 4 head to shredders lair and face off against the foot and when they are done with the foot bots Raph, Tiger claw, Fish face and Razhar are next up but April and casey arrive.  As the group are facing them Shredder throws mind control stuff at Mikey, Casey, April and Donnie

      This is where i have two different parts of the story

      1st different form of this story is that Leo is not mind control and is out number and then cornered which is when Shredder tells him to give up. Leo doesn't tho and jumps, pushes and slices his way through the group and heads over to attack shredder but Karai jumps into the way and attacks leo cause she two is being controlled. But during the fight Leo keeps trying so hard for her to remember who she is and it works. Shredder then jumps in and attacks Leo and they have a fight but Karai knows another way to stop this time control thing and that is with a very loud high pitch noise so she goes to start the fire alarm but as she is trying to her snake side keeps trying to turn her mind into a snake again and when Leo is about to be finished off she manages to turn on the fire alarms and the noise sets everyone free. As Shredder turns his back to Leo trying to figure whats going on Leo attacks him from the back and uses a smoke bomb to escape with everyone. When they head home karai had come to but doesn't seem to act like a snake anymore. Donnie uses some lab stuff and finds out that the mind control stuff had given her control over her brain again.

      2nd version of the story is that if Splinter came Leo, Donnie and Mikey end up two getting controlled and the Shredder makes them fight Splinter but Splinter doesn't want to fight them and tries his best to dough them and see's that Baxter has a group of buttons that are used to control the turtles so he heads that way and gets past his sons one by one but when he gets up to Leo it seems he has to fight him as it harder to past him but Splinter say somethings that makes Leo hesitate and gives Splinter the chance to pass him. Splinter goes to turn off the control stuff but Shredder and him have another battle but Splinter manages to turn it off and the group escape

      hope you like ^^    

      actually, the 2nd one is quite cool, I want that to happen, but I don't know that it will though, cool idea anyway

      Here's mine: Shredder asks Baxter and Rahzar to go and steal some ingriedients to make Karai NormL but before they do they have to try and turn her back while Fishface and TigerClaw are with Hun trying to get some more cheezyballz for the mid control formula! However the Turtles are on night patrol to see if the Kraang have came back yet or any bad behavior on the streets but they see Tiger Claw and Fishface stealing from an abandon Kraang Base which has some equipment and tools for shredder's Formula! The Turtles break in but since Raph is too violent he jumps in at the wrong time but they find out that Hun and the Purple Dragons are back and Raph jumps in too early and gets captured! Mikey and Donnie decide to go to the Foot HQ while Leo goes in the mutagen room of the Foot Base and attempts to free Karai after finding out she was captured after overhearing it from Hun and Tiger Claw. They later go there but a bunch of Foot-Bot are guarding the Door they pass them! They 3 meet up and try to get Raph out by sneaking in by shutting off the power but since they expected the turtles because Fishface told Shredder, they have meet up with most of the Foot including Chrome Dome, Hun and the Purple Dragons! So it becomes a big battle between the turtles face there adversaris!

      Leo Verses Tiger Claw

      Donnie Verses Baxter Fly

      Raph Verses Fishface

      Mikey Verses Rahzar

      After taking them out, they later fight some more Foot-Bots, defeat Fong, Sid and Tsio, take out Hun and find out that Raph is in a prison cell (Like Karai was in Season 2) and they free him out! But just as Shredder shoots a Mind Control Formula Needle at Karai, Raph sacrafises himself and jumps infront of the bullet and starts to get his mind controlled! Then all the villains, including Rahzar, Tiger Claw, Baxter Fly and Fishface! They all start to control Raph and torture him like telling him to hit himself (Fishface mocking him, saying "why are hitting yourself shellbrain") and control until Donnie finds a vile of retro mutagen and quickly does a mixture while all the villains have fun controlling Raph and trying to kill Leo and Mikey! While no one is looking, he takes Baxter Mixture that he and Rahzar worked hard on and pour it into the Retro Mutagen and put some Mind Formula into is and it hits Raph, turning him back into normal while they try to get away with Karai, Shredder try's to hit them again but Karai sacrafises herself and gets hit by Shredder! Leo, sad but with no choice, they have to leave without Karai again and quickly leave with Mikey saying "So long Shredhead" and leave with a smoke bomb fading them away!

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    • MarioLuigiGCFan wrote:

      Creamercrumble7150 wrote:

      Crystalmoon101 wrote: what i think will happen is that the gang sneaked in to find karai where they found her last time and shredder knew they'd look here and mind controlled Raph our of no where Raph attacks Leo and Leo manages to escape tho

      Leo heads back to the lair and explains what happened and this time Mikey and donnie comes (and maybe Splinter) they 4 head to shredders lair and face off against the foot and when they are done with the foot bots Raph, Tiger claw, Fish face and Razhar are next up but April and casey arrive.  As the group are facing them Shredder throws mind control stuff at Mikey, Casey, April and Donnie

      This is where i have two different parts of the story

      1st different form of this story is that Leo is not mind control and is out number and then cornered which is when Shredder tells him to give up. Leo doesn't tho and jumps, pushes and slices his way through the group and heads over to attack shredder but Karai jumps into the way and attacks leo cause she two is being controlled. But during the fight Leo keeps trying so hard for her to remember who she is and it works. Shredder then jumps in and attacks Leo and they have a fight but Karai knows another way to stop this time control thing and that is with a very loud high pitch noise so she goes to start the fire alarm but as she is trying to her snake side keeps trying to turn her mind into a snake again and when Leo is about to be finished off she manages to turn on the fire alarms and the noise sets everyone free. As Shredder turns his back to Leo trying to figure whats going on Leo attacks him from the back and uses a smoke bomb to escape with everyone. When they head home karai had come to but doesn't seem to act like a snake anymore. Donnie uses some lab stuff and finds out that the mind control stuff had given her control over her brain again.

      2nd version of the story is that if Splinter came Leo, Donnie and Mikey end up two getting controlled and the Shredder makes them fight Splinter but Splinter doesn't want to fight them and tries his best to dough them and see's that Baxter has a group of buttons that are used to control the turtles so he heads that way and gets past his sons one by one but when he gets up to Leo it seems he has to fight him as it harder to past him but Splinter say somethings that makes Leo hesitate and gives Splinter the chance to pass him. Splinter goes to turn off the control stuff but Shredder and him have another battle but Splinter manages to turn it off and the group escape

      hope you like ^^    

      actually, the 2nd one is quite cool, I want that to happen, but I don't know that it will though, cool idea anyway

      Here's mine:

      Creamercrumble7150 wrote:

      Crystalmoon101 wrote: what i think will happen is that the gang sneaked in to find karai where they found her last time and shredder knew they'd look here and mind controlled Raph our of no where Raph attacks Leo and Leo manages to escape tho

      Leo heads back to the lair and explains what happened and this time Mikey and donnie comes (and maybe Splinter) they 4 head to shredders lair and face off against the foot and when they are done with the foot bots Raph, Tiger claw, Fish face and Razhar are next up but April and casey arrive.  As the group are facing them Shredder throws mind control stuff at Mikey, Casey, April and Donnie

      This is where i have two different parts of the story

      1st different form of this story is that Leo is not mind control and is out number and then cornered which is when Shredder tells him to give up. Leo doesn't tho and jumps, pushes and slices his way through the group and heads over to attack shredder but Karai jumps into the way and attacks leo cause she two is being controlled. But during the fight Leo keeps trying so hard for her to remember who she is and it works. Shredder then jumps in and attacks Leo and they have a fight but Karai knows another way to stop this time control thing and that is with a very loud high pitch noise so she goes to start the fire alarm but as she is trying to her snake side keeps trying to turn her mind into a snake again and when Leo is about to be finished off she manages to turn on the fire alarms and the noise sets everyone free. As Shredder turns his back to Leo trying to figure whats going on Leo attacks him from the back and uses a smoke bomb to escape with everyone. When they head home karai had come to but doesn't seem to act like a snake anymore. Donnie uses some lab stuff and finds out that the mind control stuff had given her control over her brain again.

      2nd version of the story is that if Splinter came Leo, Donnie and Mikey end up two getting controlled and the Shredder makes them fight Splinter but Splinter doesn't want to fight them and tries his best to dough them and see's that Baxter has a group of buttons that are used to control the turtles so he heads that way and gets past his sons one by one but when he gets up to Leo it seems he has to fight him as it harder to past him but Splinter say somethings that makes Leo hesitate and gives Splinter the chance to pass him. Splinter goes to turn off the control stuff but Shredder and him have another battle but Splinter manages to turn it off and the group escape

      hope you like ^^    

      actually, the 2nd one is quite cool, I want that to happen, but I don't know that it will though, cool idea anyway

      Here's mine: Shredder asks Baxter and Rahzar to go and steal some ingriedients to make Karai NormL but before they do they have to try and turn her back while Fishface and TigerClaw are with Hun trying to get some more cheezyballz for the mid control formula! However the Turtles are on night patrol to see if the Kraang have came back yet or any bad behavior on the streets but they see Tiger Claw and Fishface stealing from an abandon Kraang Base which has some equipment and tools for shredder's Formula! The Turtles break in but since Raph is too violent he jumps in at the wrong time but they find out that Hun and the Purple Dragons are back and Raph jumps in too early and gets captured! Mikey and Donnie decide to go to the Foot HQ while Leo goes in the mutagen room of the Foot Base and attempts to free Karai after finding out she was captured after overhearing it from Hun and Tiger Claw. They later go there but a bunch of Foot-Bot are guarding the Door they pass them! They 3 meet up and try to get Raph out by sneaking in by shutting off the power but since they expected the turtles because Fishface told Shredder, they have meet up with most of the Foot including Chrome Dome, Hun and the Purple Dragons! So it becomes a big battle between the turtles face there adversaris!

      Leo Verses Tiger Claw

      Donnie Verses Baxter Fly

      Raph Verses Fishface

      Mikey Verses Rahzar

      After taking them out, they later fight some more Foot-Bots, defeat Fong, Sid and Tsio, take out Hun and find out that Raph is in a prison cell (Like Karai was in Season 2) and they free him out! But just as Shredder shoots a Mind Control Formula Needle at Karai, Raph sacrafises himself and jumps infront of the bullet and starts to get his mind controlled! Then all the villains, including Rahzar, Tiger Claw, Baxter Fly and Fishface! They all start to control Raph and torture him like telling him to hit himself (Fishface mocking him, saying "why are hitting yourself shellbrain") and control until Donnie finds a vile of retro mutagen and quickly does a mixture while all the villains have fun controlling Raph and trying to kill Leo and Mikey! While no one is looking, he takes Baxter Mixture that he and Rahzar worked hard on and pour it into the Retro Mutagen and put some Mind Formula into is and it hits Raph, turning him back into normal while they try to get away with Karai, Shredder try's to hit them again but Karai sacrafises herself and gets hit by Shredder! Leo, sad but with no choice, they have to leave without Karai again and quickly leave with Mikey saying "So long Shredhead" and leave with a smoke bomb fading them away!

      that idea's great too! I enjoy reading it

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    • Fernando Pandha wrote:
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      Here's the video with Muckman, Mondo Gecko and the mind controlled Raphael.

      That's so f****** awesome (Excuse my language, but it is!) You have really made my day! Can't wait to see that! Isn' it in the first week of May the Mind-control one?

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    • Since we're all making up our own version of how we want it to be, here's mine:

      The Turtles go out on their usual evening patrol, like normal and everything.

      But during their patrol, they see the Foot in that factory where Shredder's producing the mind-control formula. They fight, fight, fight. But then, Tiger Claw produces a 'grenade'(of some sort- which contains the mind-control formula-which had been turned into gas) and aims it for Leo. But then, Mikey sees from fighting Rahzar and jumps infornt of Leo to protect him. Mikey get the full- blast of the mind- control formula.

      Mikey's all coughing and everything. He looks at Shredder, realises that he has to obey him. But stays quiet and pretends that he's alright, nothing's happened to him. But Mikey says that they needed to retreat, because they were "losing".

      They go back to the leir, all normal. Mikey acts strange, all serious, not doing his usual messing around. Raph realises this...An ordinary evening...(or so they thought) But then, at night when they're all in bed, Mikey sneaks out to go to Shredder's leir. Raph follows him.

      So, at Shredder's leir, Mikey obeys him, switches his weapons to something sharp and intimidating, changes his bandana to black. Raph jumps in, Raph fights Mikey trying to snap him out of it. But Mikey takes down Raph, Raph is knocked out. Raph is subjected to the mind- control formula. He is now under Shredder's control!

      Other turtles realise where they went (in the end they figured out what that "grenade" was) and went to Shredder's leir (Splinter went too). They all fight, Raph takes on Splinter and Leo, Raph takes out Leo. Splinter hesitates and tries to reason with Raph, but fails. Meanwhile, Mikey is fighting Donnie, Mikey takes out Donnie. Then, TIger Claw, Rahzar and Fishface join in and take out Splinter. Leo regains concienceness, but doesn't fight, but holds up a picture of them all. Mikey snaps out of it. Raph hestitates, but then Splinter gets up, goes to Raph and does a fatherly affectionate hug (awwww, I don't know, I know it's a bit cheesy, but don't judge me). Raph snaps out of it. Then they all escape.

      HAPPY DAYS!

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    • BlazeinBoots wrote: Since we're all making up our own version of how we want it to be, here's mine:

      The Turtles go out on their usual evening patrol, like normal and everything.

      But during their patrol, they see the Foot in that factory where Shredder's producing the mind-control formula. They fight, fight, fight. But then, Tiger Claw produces a 'grenade'(of some sort- which contains the mind-control formula-which had been turned into gas) and aims it for Leo. But then, Mikey sees from fighting Rahzar and jumps infornt of Leo to protect him. Mikey get the full- blast of the mind- control formula.

      Mikey's all coughing and everything. He looks at Shredder, realises that he has to obey him. But stays quiet and pretends that he's alright, nothing's happened to him. But Mikey says that they needed to retreat, because they were "losing".

      They go back to the leir, all normal. Mikey acts strange, all serious, not doing his usual messing around. Raph realises this...An ordinary evening...(or so they thought) But then, at night when they're all in bed, Mikey sneaks out to go to Shredder's leir. Raph follows him.

      So, at Shredder's leir, Mikey obeys him, switches his weapons to something sharp and intimidating, changes his bandana to black. Raph jumps in, Raph fights Mikey trying to snap him out of it. But Mikey takes down Raph, Raph is knocked out. Raph is subjected to the mind- control formula. He is now under Shredder's control!

      Other turtles realise where they went (in the end they figured out what that "grenade" was) and went to Shredder's leir (Splinter went too). They all fight, Raph takes on Splinter and Leo, Raph takes out Leo. Splinter hesitates and tries to reason with Raph, but fails. Meanwhile, Mikey is fighting Donnie, Mikey takes out Donnie. Then, TIger Claw, Rahzar and Fishface join in and take out Splinter. Leo regains concienceness, but doesn't fight, but holds up a picture of them all. Mikey snaps out of it. Raph hestitates, but then Splinter gets up, goes to Raph and does a fatherly affectionate hug (awwww, I don't know, I know it's a bit cheesy, but don't judge me). Raph snaps out of it. Then they all escape.

      HAPPY DAYS!

      I love it!

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    • or maybe Raph gets kidnapped, Leo goes to save him but got mind control and fight splinter and the rest of the turtles and they do something to snap them out of it and escape.

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    • Creamercrumble7150 wrote:
      or maybe Raph gets kidnapped, Leo goes to save him but got mind control and fight splinter and the rest of the turtles and they do something to snap them out of it and escape.

      That sounds like the sort of thing they'd do for an episode.

      And to be honest, I don't really see Raph as the one who'd fall for family photos, lovey-dovey stuff or anything. Like in "Identity Crisis" (2003 series), Raph doesn't fall for the lovey-dovey memories. I was kinda linking it to that in some ways.

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    • Personally, I think it's gonna be a continued thing with Raph being mind controlled, if only that it refences that Raph spent some time as the Shredder in the comic universe.


      jD001

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    • JaneDoe001 wrote:
      Personally, I think it's gonna be a continued thing with Raph being mind controlled, if only that it refences that Raph spent some time as the Shredder in the comic universe.


      jD001

      I'm a bit of a 'Raph fan-girl', but I do hope that Raph stays with the Shredder for a couple of episodes. It'd show how the two of them are actually similar- fighting style wise (AKA anger).

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    • BlazeinBoots wrote:
      JaneDoe001 wrote:
      Personally, I think it's gonna be a continued thing with Raph being mind controlled, if only that it refences that Raph spent some time as the Shredder in the comic universe.


      jD001

      I'm a bit of a 'Raph fan-girl', but I do hope that Raph stays with the Shredder for a couple of episodes. It'd show how the two of them are actually similar- fighting style wise (AKA anger).

      Raph remaining on Shredder's side? Doubtful. We don't even know if the mind control serum effects will last.

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    • What I meant was that I think it'll last a couple of episodes before an antidote is made.


      jD001

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    • JaneDoe001 wrote: What I meant was that I think it'll last a couple of episodes before an antidote is made.


      jD001

      You know, I think April can just use her telepathy to break the mind control.

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    • DPfanboy wrote:

      JaneDoe001 wrote: What I meant was that I think it'll last a couple of episodes before an antidote is made.


      jD001

      You know, I think April can just use her telepathy to break the mind control.

      This is true.


      jD001

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    • BlazeinBoots wrote:

      Creamercrumble7150 wrote:
      or maybe Raph gets kidnapped, Leo goes to save him but got mind control and fight splinter and the rest of the turtles and they do something to snap them out of it and escape.

      That sounds like the sort of thing they'd do for an episode.

      And to be honest, I don't really see Raph as the one who'd fall for family photos, lovey-dovey stuff or anything. Like in "Identity Crisis" (2003 series), Raph doesn't fall for the lovey-dovey memories. I was kinda linking it to that in some ways.

      yeah, you're right

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    • BlazeinBoots wrote:

      JaneDoe001 wrote:
      Personally, I think it's gonna be a continued thing with Raph being mind controlled, if only that it refences that Raph spent some time as the Shredder in the comic universe.


      jD001

      I'm a bit of a 'Raph fan-girl', but I do hope that Raph stays with the Shredder for a couple of episodes. It'd show how the two of them are actually similar- fighting style wise (AKA anger).

      I kinda hope that too, I wanna see their reaction

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    • Creamercrumble7150 wrote:

      BlazeinBoots wrote:

      JaneDoe001 wrote:
      Personally, I think it's gonna be a continued thing with Raph being mind controlled, if only that it refences that Raph spent some time as the Shredder in the comic universe.


      jD001

      I'm a bit of a 'Raph fan-girl', but I do hope that Raph stays with the Shredder for a couple of episodes. It'd show how the two of them are actually similar- fighting style wise (AKA anger).
      I kinda hope that too, I wanna see their reaction

      Yeah, I really wanna see how the villains would react to Raph being with them (i.e.Fishface, Rahzar etc.), not just Splinter and the other Turtles.

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    • JaneDoe001 wrote:
      DPfanboy wrote:

      JaneDoe001 wrote: What I meant was that I think it'll last a couple of episodes before an antidote is made.


      jD001

      You know, I think April can just use her telepathy to break the mind control.
      This is true.


      jD001

      I don't think it'd work, the serum is chemical, not natural. Therefore, April would not be able to control it. And if you think about it, April has only been able to stop things 'magical' (I guess you can say), other phychic stuff and natural occurences. Like, "In Dreams" with the Dream Beavers and when she went into their minds, "Return to New York", when April restored Splinter after he went bazerk and just general stuff like finding the right way...

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    • BlazeinBoots wrote:
      JaneDoe001 wrote:
      DPfanboy wrote:

      JaneDoe001 wrote: What I meant was that I think it'll last a couple of episodes before an antidote is made.


      jD001

      You know, I think April can just use her telepathy to break the mind control.
      This is true.


      jD001

      I don't think it'd work, the serum is chemical, not natural. Therefore, April would not be able to control it. And if you think about it, April has only been able to stop things 'magical' (I guess you can say), other phychic stuff and natural occurences. Like, "In Dreams" with the Dream Beavers and when she went into their minds, "Return to New York", when April restored Splinter after he went bazerk and just general stuff like finding the right way...

      We don't even know how the serum works yet, or how Shredder has control over the subjects.  Do you think the serum is a liquid that runs through the subjects's brain, or something like that?

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    • DPfanboy wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      JaneDoe001 wrote:
      DPfanboy wrote:

      JaneDoe001 wrote: What I meant was that I think it'll last a couple of episodes before an antidote is made.


      jD001

      You know, I think April can just use her telepathy to break the mind control.
      This is true.


      jD001

      I don't think it'd work, the serum is chemical, not natural. Therefore, April would not be able to control it. And if you think about it, April has only been able to stop things 'magical' (I guess you can say), other phychic stuff and natural occurences. Like, "In Dreams" with the Dream Beavers and when she went into their minds, "Return to New York", when April restored Splinter after he went bazerk and just general stuff like finding the right way...
      We don't even know how the serum works yet, or how Shredder has control over the subjects.  Do you think the serum is a liquid that runs through the subjects's brain, or something like that?

      Well if it's Mind control then I suppose it is. I just don't think April has the ability to control things like that, nothing chemical or anything...

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    • BlazeinBoots wrote:

      DPfanboy wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      JaneDoe001 wrote:
      DPfanboy wrote:

      JaneDoe001 wrote: What I meant was that I think it'll last a couple of episodes before an antidote is made.


      jD001

      You know, I think April can just use her telepathy to break the mind control.
      This is true.


      jD001

      I don't think it'd work, the serum is chemical, not natural. Therefore, April would not be able to control it. And if you think about it, April has only been able to stop things 'magical' (I guess you can say), other phychic stuff and natural occurences. Like, "In Dreams" with the Dream Beavers and when she went into their minds, "Return to New York", when April restored Splinter after he went bazerk and just general stuff like finding the right way...
      We don't even know how the serum works yet, or how Shredder has control over the subjects.  Do you think the serum is a liquid that runs through the subjects's brain, or something like that?

      Well if it's Mind control then I suppose it is. I just don't think April has the ability to control things like that, nothing chemical or anything...

      Kraang have very powerful minds, and since April is half Kraang, she has a mind more powerful than an average human. We've all seen what she can do with her powers! Plus I didn't say April can control things. We also don't know how the subject is given the serum.

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    • DPfanboy wrote:

      BlazeinBoots wrote:


      DPfanboy wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      JaneDoe001 wrote:
      DPfanboy wrote:

      JaneDoe001 wrote: What I meant was that I think it'll last a couple of episodes before an antidote is made.


      jD001

      You know, I think April can just use her telepathy to break the mind control.
      This is true.


      jD001

      I don't think it'd work, the serum is chemical, not natural. Therefore, April would not be able to control it. And if you think about it, April has only been able to stop things 'magical' (I guess you can say), other phychic stuff and natural occurences. Like, "In Dreams" with the Dream Beavers and when she went into their minds, "Return to New York", when April restored Splinter after he went bazerk and just general stuff like finding the right way...
      We don't even know how the serum works yet, or how Shredder has control over the subjects.  Do you think the serum is a liquid that runs through the subjects's brain, or something like that?
      Well if it's Mind control then I suppose it is. I just don't think April has the ability to control things like that, nothing chemical or anything...
      Kraang have very powerful minds, and since April is half Kraang, she has a mind more powerful than an average human. We've all seen what she can do with her powers! Plus I didn't say April can control things.

      We also don't know how the subject is given the serum.

      Dunno, could be gas or injected. And I meant that April could- I can't think of another world for 'control', but can use her abilities to a certain extent, and in Raph's soon-to-be situation, I don't think April can fix it with her abilities. It is perhaps too much.

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    • BlazeinBoots wrote:
      DPfanboy wrote:

      BlazeinBoots wrote:


      DPfanboy wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      JaneDoe001 wrote:
      DPfanboy wrote:

      JaneDoe001 wrote: What I meant was that I think it'll last a couple of episodes before an antidote is made.


      jD001

      You know, I think April can just use her telepathy to break the mind control.
      This is true.


      jD001

      I don't think it'd work, the serum is chemical, not natural. Therefore, April would not be able to control it. And if you think about it, April has only been able to stop things 'magical' (I guess you can say), other phychic stuff and natural occurences. Like, "In Dreams" with the Dream Beavers and when she went into their minds, "Return to New York", when April restored Splinter after he went bazerk and just general stuff like finding the right way...
      We don't even know how the serum works yet, or how Shredder has control over the subjects.  Do you think the serum is a liquid that runs through the subjects's brain, or something like that?
      Well if it's Mind control then I suppose it is. I just don't think April has the ability to control things like that, nothing chemical or anything...
      Kraang have very powerful minds, and since April is half Kraang, she has a mind more powerful than an average human. We've all seen what she can do with her powers! Plus I didn't say April can control things.

      We also don't know how the subject is given the serum.

      Dunno, could be gas or injected. And I meant that April could- I can't think of another world for 'control', but can use her abilities to a certain extent, and in Raph's soon-to-be situation, I don't think April can fix it with her abilities. It is perhaps too much.

      You know what?  Let's just leave this conversation until after the next episode airs, and let's not continue it with just guesswork and estimation.  I don't want to turn this into a war.

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    • DPfanboy wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      DPfanboy wrote:

      BlazeinBoots wrote:



      DPfanboy wrote:
      BlazeinBoots wrote:
      JaneDoe001 wrote:
      DPfanboy wrote:

      JaneDoe001 wrote: What I meant was that I think it'll last a couple of episodes before an antidote is made.


      jD001

      You know, I think April can just use her telepathy to break the mind control.
      This is true.


      jD001

      I don't think it'd work, the serum is chemical, not natural. Therefore, April would not be able to control it. And if you think about it, April has only been able to stop things 'magical' (I guess you can say), other phychic stuff and natural occurences. Like, "In Dreams" with the Dream Beavers and when she went into their minds, "Return to New York", when April restored Splinter after he went bazerk and just general stuff like finding the right way...
      We don't even know how the serum works yet, or how Shredder has control over the subjects.  Do you think the serum is a liquid that runs through the subjects's brain, or something like that?
      Well if it's Mind control then I suppose it is. I just don't think April has the ability to control things like that, nothing chemical or anything...
      Kraang have very powerful minds, and since April is half Kraang, she has a mind more powerful than an average human. We've all seen what she can do with her powers! Plus I didn't say April can control things.

      We also don't know how the subject is given the serum.

      Dunno, could be gas or injected. And I meant that April could- I can't think of another world for 'control', but can use her abilities to a certain extent, and in Raph's soon-to-be situation, I don't think April can fix it with her abilities. It is perhaps too much.
      You know what?  Let's just leave this conversation until after the next episode airs, and let's not continue it with just guesswork and estimation.  I don't want to turn this into a war.

      Fair enough... until the 26th, then.

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    • Well it's been confirmed!  Shredder wants to use the serum to control Karai and get back on his side!  The turtles better rescue her soon!

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    • DPfanboy wrote:
      Well it's been confirmed!  Shredder wants to use the serum to control Karai and get back on his side!  The turtles better rescue her soon!

      Assuming he hasn't used it on her already.

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    • Vgiannell5 wrote:

      DPfanboy wrote:
      Well it's been confirmed!  Shredder wants to use the serum to control Karai and get back on his side!  The turtles better rescue her soon!

      Assuming he hasn't used it on her already.

      He didn't finish it yet, remember?

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    • DPfanboy wrote:

      Vgiannell5 wrote:


      DPfanboy wrote:
      Well it's been confirmed!  Shredder wants to use the serum to control Karai and get back on his side!  The turtles better rescue her soon!
      Assuming he hasn't used it on her already.
      He didn't finish it yet, remember?

      Maybe he has in between episodes.

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    • Vgiannell5 wrote:
      DPfanboy wrote:

      Vgiannell5 wrote:


      DPfanboy wrote:
      Well it's been confirmed!  Shredder wants to use the serum to control Karai and get back on his side!  The turtles better rescue her soon!
      Assuming he hasn't used it on her already.
      He didn't finish it yet, remember?
      Maybe he has in between episodes.

      As in between this week's episode and the next?

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    • DPfanboy wrote:
      Vgiannell5 wrote:
      DPfanboy wrote:

      Vgiannell5 wrote:



      DPfanboy wrote:
      Well it's been confirmed!  Shredder wants to use the serum to control Karai and get back on his side!  The turtles better rescue her soon!
      Assuming he hasn't used it on her already.
      He didn't finish it yet, remember?
      Maybe he has in between episodes.
      As in between this week's episode and the next?

      As in between the time the Turtles have been fighting other villains not realizing they are distractions while the Foot gets the chemicals Shredder needs.

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    • Or, if he wants to cure her, once he finds it, he will do that first, then control her. This just proves me correct. Shredder doesn't care about her at all. You don't use mind control serums on people you care about.

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    • ChristopherRedfield246 wrote: Or, if he wants to cure her, once he finds it, he will do that first, then control her. This just proves me correct. Shredder doesn't care about her at all. You don't use mind control serums on people you care about.

      No, I think he will use her mutation against Splinter. Yeah, he really doesn't care about her at all. It's just an obsession to keep her to himself and never let her return to her family. Take away her free will and that proves it.

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    • DPfanboy wrote:

      ChristopherRedfield246 wrote: Or, if he wants to cure her, once he finds it, he will do that first, then control her. This just proves me correct. Shredder doesn't care about her at all. You don't use mind control serums on people you care about.

      No, I think he will use her mutation against Splinter. Yeah, he really doesn't care about her at all. It's just an obsession to keep her to himself and never let her return to her family. Take away her free will and that proves it.

      Right, and maybe you are right abou that first part, who knows.

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