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  • I've created a petition in the hopes of having her appear in the 2012 show. If you want, you can sign it Here!


    What do you guys think she'll be like if they add her. I secretly hope that she's kind of snarky, so she and Raph can bicker at each other, but I don't want her to be just a love interest.

    It's a new series after all. If they include her, they'll probably change her backstory around, maybe even make her a teenager. Hopefully they'll keep the Captain Filch plot though. Because of her determination to take Filch down herself, the guys decide to get involved and she becomes an ally.

    I also hope that this is stretched into more than one episode, and that she's really sassy but has a hidden geeky side (Mechanics, Physics, etc.), something that Raph would constantly make of her about.

    What do you guys think?

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    • I've got an idea! How about I advertise this on this front page? I double-signed by accident, so you're going to have to not count a signature…sorry T_T

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    • The-Monsters-Closet wrote:
      I've created a petition in the hopes of having her appear in the 2012 show. If you want, you can sign it Here!


      What do you guys think she'll be like if they add her. I secretly hope that she's kind of snarky, so she and Raph can bicker at each other, but I don't want her to be just a love interest.

      It's a new series after all. If they include her, they'll probably change her backstory around, maybe even make her a teenager. Hopefully they'll keep the Captain Filch plot though. Because of her determination to take Filch down herself, the guys decide to get involved and she becomes an ally.

      I also hope that this is stretched into more than one episode, and that she's really sassy but has a hidden geeky side (Mechanics, Physics, etc.), something that Raph would constantly make of her about.

      What do you guys think?

      Yees,Mona Lisa sould appear in the show,instead of this annoying female turtle Venus.

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    • 149.126.14.226 wrote:

      The-Monsters-Closet wrote:
      I've created a petition in the hopes of having her appear in the 2012 show. If you want, you can sign it Here!


      What do you guys think she'll be like if they add her. I secretly hope that she's kind of snarky, so she and Raph can bicker at each other, but I don't want her to be just a love interest.

      It's a new series after all. If they include her, they'll probably change her backstory around, maybe even make her a teenager. Hopefully they'll keep the Captain Filch plot though. Because of her determination to take Filch down herself, the guys decide to get involved and she becomes an ally.

      I also hope that this is stretched into more than one episode, and that she's really sassy but has a hidden geeky side (Mechanics, Physics, etc.), something that Raph would constantly make of her about.

      What do you guys think?

      Yees,Mona Lisa sould appear in the show,instead of this annoying female turtle Venus.

      Hey, I like Venus at most she just needs to be rebooted a-bit (maybe not in this series)

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    • Venus never annoyed me. Nothing preventing both. If Venus is kept the Turtles' sister it's not as if they'd ship her with any of them (perhaps Casey?) so she and Mona could easily coexist.

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    • They need to reintroduce Mona in this new show. Since Nick owns the rights to the franchise, they have the perfect opportunity to reinvent her character. Perhaps she could become a recurring character, an ally of the turtles.

      Perhaps maybe at some point, they should try to at least include her in Season 3 or 4. A lot of loyal fans would be so psyched to see her on TV again.

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    • They should probably finish with Irma arcs first though, running Irma/Mona arcs simultaneously could get distracting.

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    • Well, the show is now in it's third season.

      So maybe at some point in time, they might actually introduce her. All they need to do is come up with a proper origin to establish her in the series, of course it may take time to do though.

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    • So Venus de Milo will not appear in this show. Feeoh! That's a relief.

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    • I didn't necessarily imply that. But perhaps if they choose to introduce Mona, that would most likely mean Venus will not be included.

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    • MarvelFan2012 wrote: I didn't necessarily imply that. But perhaps if they choose to introduce Mona, that would most likely mean Venus will not be included.

      How exactly does this disprove Venus's inclusion, and who says Mona and Venus cannot coexist?

      Nobody said Venus will not be in the show and I am not seeing any cited sources proving so.

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    • JBolbotowski1 wrote: So Venus de Milo will not appear in this show. Feeoh! That's a relief.

      Nobody said that Venus is not going to be in the new show, and I happen to be one of the fans who wishes her to return. >:(

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    • You do have a point. From what I've read on the character list, some old classic characters are being reintroduced into the new show, both allies and villains.

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    • MarvelFan2012 wrote: You do have a point. From what I've read on the character list, some old classic characters are being reintroduced into the new show, both allies and villains.

      Quite frankly, I did NOT expect Mondo Gecko and Napoleon Bonafrog to be in this show, though I am pleased by their inclusion.

      Who knows what other unexpected characters will crop up?

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    • I am really hoping for:

      If they can actually make Venus interesting, I would not mind. Heck, they established Karai is their sister! Maybe she will have a second mutation and become based on Venus. (She needs her original short hair style though! Short hair girls FTW! Maybe give her a slight Sailor Moon referance in her somewhere! A referance to Sailor Venus would be cool if they brought her in)

      Dirtbag and Groundchuck

      Tokka

      Usagi Tuskino...I mean Usagi Yojimbo

      Armaggon

      Alopex and Koya (Now that Karai has left, the foot clan needs some new female members. These are two good ones to bring in!)

      Mona Lisa

      King Lionheart (I know he is a toy, but I want a Lion mutant!)


      Also, I hope it gets renewed for a 5th season and maybe more......as long as they keep up the great writing, and not fall as far as Spongebob has.

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    • Please, let this happen!

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    • With the recent Irma revelation, Mona Lisa would be a refreshing apology from the writers, along with a real Irma.

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    • They said that they hated the idea of Venus, and would NEVER put her in the show, but just because if some fans liked Venus, they put the Venus on the turtle van to a reference to her for some fans who liked her.

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    • GT Aqua wrote: They said that they hated the idea of Venus, and would NEVER put her in the show, but just because if some fans liked Venus, they put the Venus on the turtle van to a reference to her for some fans who liked her.

      Where does it say that? Your claim lacks a cited source.

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    • I remember a guy made a review of the Comic Con in Cali, and showed clips and someone asked about Venus,  and they ignored it. They said okay next question. So, they obviously didnt wanna talk about that 'disaster' and moved on. I inferred they put Venus on the van for the fans that liked her. Thats my opinion. And in the article they said they didnt like the idea of a woman turtle

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    • GT Aqua wrote: I remember a guy made a review of the Comic Con in Cali, and showed clips and someone asked about Venus,  and they ignored it. They said okay next question. So, they obviously didnt wanna talk about that 'disaster' and moved on. I inferred they put Venus on the van for the fans that liked her. Thats my opinion. And in the article they said they didnt like the idea of a woman turtle

      You are not providing a link to the article. Therefore, I am still convinced that you are lying.

      And ignoring questions doesn't necessarily mean that the answer is no.

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    • SonofSamhain wrote:

      GT Aqua wrote: I remember a guy made a review of the Comic Con in Cali, and showed clips and someone asked about Venus,  and they ignored it. They said okay next question. So, they obviously didnt wanna talk about that 'disaster' and moved on. I inferred they put Venus on the van for the fans that liked her. Thats my opinion. And in the article they said they didnt like the idea of a woman turtle

      You are not providing a link to the article. Therefore, I am still convinced that you are lying.

      And ignoring questions doesn't necessarily mean that the answer is no.


      Blatantly obvious that"Aqua"is a Venus hater.

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    • I would love to see her in the 2012 cartoon, as long as they write her well.

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    • QuasimodoBellringer wrote:
      I would love to see her in the 2012 cartoon, as long as they write her well.


      Venus has a lot of potential,if she were made by talented writers.The writers of "The Next Mutation"turned her into a Mary Sue.

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    • Sugilita wrote:
      QuasimodoBellringer wrote:
      I would love to see her in the 2012 cartoon, as long as they write her well.

      Venus has a lot of potential,if she were made by talented writers.The writers of "The Next Mutation"turned her into a Mary Sue.

      Pretty much.

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    • Sugilita wrote:

      SonofSamhain wrote:

      GT Aqua wrote: I remember a guy made a review of the Comic Con in Cali, and showed clips and someone asked about Venus,  and they ignored it. They said okay next question. So, they obviously didnt wanna talk about that 'disaster' and moved on. I inferred they put Venus on the van for the fans that liked her. Thats my opinion. And in the article they said they didnt like the idea of a woman turtle

      You are not providing a link to the article. Therefore, I am still convinced that you are lying.

      And ignoring questions doesn't necessarily mean that the answer is no.


      Blatantly obvious that"Aqua"is a Venus hater.

      Yeah. The worst Venus haters would be the ones who insist that redeeming the character is impossible.

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    • Honestly, ive never watched The Next Mutation. But from what every1 says, I am not buying Venus as a good character to be animated. Im not hating on any character. But I would rather Mona lisa than Venus. I mean, if they put Venus in the show to help Splinter, and she has a good storyline,  lime Flaming Carrot and Usagi raised her, than im all in for it. But for now, until I actually see a good animation of her, im not insisting on putting her on the show. Maybe, Shredder captures a turtle and thd young girl and Donnie grabs the girl but she breaks away and becomes Venus, maybe ill take it.

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    • I wouldn't want Mona Lisa to be in TMNT 2012 with the exact same storyline as in Next Mutation, but they could certainly approach her with a spin on her story as they have already done with many others (Irma, Razar)

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    • I hope that she shows up in the series. I also hope that her relationship with Raphael is similar to April and Donatello. Its gonna be funny to see Raph desperately trying to impress her. I can just picture Raphael running to Donnie's lab shouting "Donnie, I need to borrow your flowchart!!!"

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    • A bit off topic but I am actually looking for a few action figures that I might need so if anyone wants to sell of trade for any figures than I will look into it. All you have to do is state your figure and your own price but nothing WAY to expensive!

      What I am looking for: Shredder #1 Shredder #2 with Removable Kabuto/Helmet Fishface Foot Solider Kraang Droid

      If you have any of these figures please comment and name your price or trade! Thank You and have a Good Day!

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    • Never mind that Next Mutation bit, was thinking of Venus...

      Raph seems to hate human-turtle relationships so I think it would not be until she became a gecko (or whatev) that he would be open to the idea.

      At which case, Don tactics would not be needed since his deal with a much bigger differences in appearance. Raph-Mona appearance diffs are basically having shell versus longer tail.

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    • Gecko Mona Lisa! XD We seem to be in sync here, thinking the same thing.

      I agree with the inclusion of Mona Lizard--I mean, Lisa. *cough* It just feel that in a universe so filled with only male mutants (and April being somewhat bland as character lately, and Karai disappearing, and Irma being... still recovering from that...) there's a real severe lack of ...the other gender.

      I'd have Mona Lisa included rather than Venus, but only because I want to see Raph in *that* situation. (They could redeeme Venus and that would be nice... but not seeing her as a girl turtle. It would need to do something else. Also, I'm going to go all shipper craze here but... Karai was Leo's romantic interest, and if so, Venus would be, what, Mikey's? Can't say I'm a fan of Alopex, not for this story. Anyways.) I think Raph in love would be a sight worth seeing. Though I agree with another user here: it would be nice if they don't limit Mona to a love-interest role, and give her a nice spin and variation to her origins story.

      Speaking of which, I was actually going to ask people here about good fanfics introducing Mona in the 2012 universe. The idea just grew too much on me, got the creative juice flowing. Now I want to know who else is writing something like that, and their take on the subject. (Fanfiction.net doesn't even put Mona Lisa as tag character....)

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    • MonaLizard wrote: Gecko Mona Lisa! XD We seem to be in sync here, thinking the same thing.

      I agree with the inclusion of Mona Lizard--I mean, Lisa. *cough* It just feel that in a universe so filled with only male mutants (and April being somewhat bland as character lately, and Karai disappearing, and Irma being... still recovering from that...) there's a real severe lack of ...the other gender.

      I'd have Mona Lisa included rather than Venus, but only because I want to see Raph in *that* situation. (They could redeeme Venus and that would be nice... but not seeing her as a girl turtle. It would need to do something else. Also, I'm going to go all shipper craze here but... Karai was Leo's romantic interest, and if so, Venus would be, what, Mikey's? Can't say I'm a fan of Alopex, not for this story. Anyways.) I think Raph in love would be a sight worth seeing. Though I agree with another user here: it would be nice if they don't limit Mona to a love-interest role, and give her a nice spin and variation to her origins story.

      Speaking of which, I was actually going to ask people here about good fanfics introducing Mona in the 2012 universe. The idea just grew too much on me, got the creative juice flowing. Now I want to know who else is writing something like that, and their take on the subject. (Fanfiction.net doesn't even put Mona Lisa as tag character....)

      I would not mind Venus still being a turtle if she were to return.

      And I would rather have both Mona Lisa and Venus make a comeback instead of just one of them.

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    • I REALLY don't want them to bring back Venus. Just Mona will be great.

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    • Really hoping Nick does bring Mona Lisa back. Since her original appearance was so brief she's practically a blank slate, it would be a great opportunity for Nick to be able to take a character many already know and like a lot and yet have plenty of room to give her original story and character development of their own. Would love to see her as a gal pal for Raph.

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    • Venus would be fine as a guest character who later returns to China to learn chi magic with her non-Splinter master.

      Having a guest does not mean someone has to be a regular part of the cast.

      I mean heck... imagine Venus as being a villain, could dig that.

      I realize a female turtle sibling throws is a big change to the dynamic, but that is not necessary.

      She might make a nice playmate for Karai, come to think of it.

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    • I think I'll be okay with Venus as long as she doesn't stay in the show and/or become the 5th turtle.

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    • Venus as a villain could be cool. Maybe take the place of Slash as the bad 'guy' turtle if Slash is to end up allied with TMNT. I believe Slash has been an alien in one version, so hey maybe make Venus a turtle-like (snapping turtle?) alien character.

      Would be cool if they went a bit more animalistic with her, similar to Leatherhead in that she doesn't have quite the level of humanity TMNT have, there's still that side that may flip out once in a while and be very animal-like. Would be interesting to go that direction with a female character.

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    • Leo the Ninja King wrote: I think I'll be okay with Venus as long as she doesn't stay in the show and/or become the 5th turtle.

      Theoretically you could reboot venus as a member of the team but you would have to make a member from the get go adopted trained and raised by splinter with the other four

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    • I have a theory: maybe Karai will double-mutate into a turtle and go undercover among Shredder's army of mutants (created by Baxter Stockman) under the code name "Venus de Milo".

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    • Leo the Ninja King wrote:
      I have a theory: maybe Karai will double-mutate into a turtle and go undercover among Shredder's army of mutants (created by Baxter Stockman) under the code name "Venus de Milo".

      The code name idea, I like. But the double-mutation.... seems a bit too much. Honestly, I think the policy here is "no girl turtles", and I have understood we already have a romantic interest for Mikey (!) and it's not a turtle so... Oh I'm gonna keep pushing for Mona Lizard. It's just, the concept is just loads better than Ninjara.

      Seriously, no one knows of a good fanfic involving Mona Lisa?

      (By the way, mind if I use your code-name idea in a fanfic, Leo the Ninja King?)

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    • No problem, MonaLizard. You can use my code-name idea.

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    • perhaps her name woul need to be Elisabeth

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    • I'd make her a candidate for a pontiental 2012 Mutanimals

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    • EndBringer99 wrote:
      perhaps her name woul need to be Elisabeth

      Probably Monica Elisabeth.

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    • I like the idea, the cartoon series could always use new characters!!!!

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    • Snake>Turtle would be weird for Karai, I don't like it.

      Mona Lisa should probably be referred to solely by her chinese name, and could be perhaps a very different breed of turtle (sea turtle?) and maybe linked to Ho Chan in some way?

      She wouldn't have to become a regular member of the cast, a go-back-to-china explanation would be very easy to get her out.

      Or you could do something grimdark like kill her off or have her permanently changed into an Astral Ghost (like Ho Chan) allowing her to come back occasionally when mystic help is needed by turtles but not have her hang out in their base

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    • Tycio wrote:
      Snake>Turtle would be weird for Karai, I don't like it.

      Mona Lisa should probably be referred to solely by her chinese name, and could be perhaps a very different breed of turtle (sea turtle?) and maybe linked to Ho Chan in some way?

      She wouldn't have to become a regular member of the cast, a go-back-to-china explanation would be very easy to get her out.

      Or you could do something grimdark like kill her off or have her permanently changed into an Astral Ghost (like Ho Chan) allowing her to come back occasionally when mystic help is needed by turtles but not have her hang out in their base

      Well it wouldn't be too weird. Snakes and Turtles are at least both reptiles.

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    • I have a thought of what Mona Lisa will look like in the 2012 version. In my vision: She's a mutant black and green lizard (Kind of like a Uromastyx if you ask me), she wear a red bandana around her neck, she wears a black sweater with the hood, and she wear a brown casual capri short cargo pants multi pocket army military style. As for shoes.. she ain't wearing no shoes! And her hair color is yellow and she has a samurai hairstyle (I'm still thinking about it). Oh! As for a weapon for protection: A electric nunchucks (Or something else you guys had in mind). And she be quite more of a bad-ass then her original version. And for her origins.. well her story in my mind is an little more tragic then her original 80s version. But what do you guys think of Mona Lisa character design style? :) And if there's any tmnt fan artists out there.. contact me if you want to draw my Mona Lisa version! :D

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    • Ugh I just realized I mixed up Mona Lisa with Venus de Milo again...

      Anyway, based on File:Mona_Lisa_Human.jpg perhaps she should wield paired hammers.

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    • I've heard there's a character design for the 2012 series. Is this true? Anyone have a link you can drop off here? I'm very interested.

      I've seen some very cool designs in the web, specially the one by  =raevene:https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/9c/b3/13/9cb31373aead2fac19cd54729187e327.jpg)

      and tmnt-ask-liz :https://40.media.tumblr.com/033c9a9d7072560d652559ce0e77ed37/tumblr_nacexwgqvZ1t4f7djo1_500.png

      <3 

      If they really were to put this character into the rooster, I vote for no hair. 

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    • Lizardwoman

      Jack Kurtzman's girlfriend

      Mona Lisa or some random lizard woman? You decide.

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    • OH! So that's the lizard lady! ...Er, yeah... it looks like Kurtzman had an affair with the Loch Ness Monster... Nessy, affectionately.

      Coming from Kurtzman, I kinda see that happening...

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    • Check out this 2012 version of Mona Lisa (It's also Fan Art):

      File:Commissionjanlate1 by scittykitty-d8f2ow9.png
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    • I would never want them to put Lisa in the 2012 series, but the design below is awesome!

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    • I'd love to see Lisa in this series, what the heck...more mutants! More the merrier...

      (BTW I've signed the petition)

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