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  • Every charcter has to appear at least twice to get their own action figure right? So when's Mutagen Man gonna come back?

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    • I want to see some closure for him too

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    • Alopex never got a second appearence. Timothy already appeared more than her, and she's a bas ass...

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    • true

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    • He's not coming back.  All of the episodes have been produced, and there's no role for him at this point. There are quite a few points where this series did not give any closure.

      That he got a semi-appearance in "The Creeping Doom" is at least assurance that he was alive.

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    • Bruh... >:l Now we'll never get to see if Donnie turned him back or not! That sucks!

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    • Just like we'll never get to see if April finds her mom which is expliclty ambiguous. Given the buildup in early seasons, this seemed to be one of the main series "goals."

      The idea of either curing or nullifying some of the random mutants on the show seemed to go by the wayside after the space adventures.

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    • This series had a habit of derailing its own buildups. Writing priorities change too much too often. Characterization is inconsistent. And, if you believe the rumors, the two executive producers couldn't work well together. It feels less like a united series and more like several small semi-rebooted series. Timothy, April's mom, etc. really didn't stand a chance.

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    • Y'know, instead of dealing with the "Mutant Apocalypes" and the "Monster" stories for season 5, why don't they give each individual mutant like Snakeweed and Spider Bytez their last episode where in the end they get turned back in the end. That would be nice. I also want to see Justin again... *Meow* :>

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    • That would require a well-coordinated production with long-term planning. This show hasn't seen that in years.

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    • Yeah... The 2012 series is pretty much dead now. I mean after I watched the "Mutant Apocalypes" arc, I officially gave up on the series.

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    • I gave up much longer ago. Even most good 2012 TV series fanartists I know of gave up drawing fanart from this series much longer ago. If you can't keep inspiring deviantART or Tumblr, you know you're finished. This production really, really screwed up bad.

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    • Fishface405 wrote:
      Yeah... The 2012 series is pretty much dead now. I mean after I watched the "Mutant Apocalypes" arc, I officially gave up on the series.

      So disjointed and harmful an arc that Nickelodeon literally had to declare it non-canon.

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    • The sad thing is, I've been working on a really big 2012 series fanfiction project for the past few years. Initially, it could plausibly take place within the series' continuity, and it kept track of many small details from the series so far. But in season 3 the show began to get really, really bad and kept appearing to break its own continuity left and right, so I decided to stop trying to write in-continuity and rework it to exist in an alternate universe of its own (and allow it to become more mature, Mirage-style). The problem now is that season 4 and 5 have been so terrible that no one can really take any of these story arcs or characters seriously anymore, and that means even the best-written fanfiction lives under the shadow of the source material's tarnished reputation.

      This show has done incalculable damage to the TMNT mythology as a whole, and I can already see signs of its bad influence on other versions of TMNT. One of the recent IDW TMNT story arcs (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Dimension X) decided to portray the IDW version of Mikey with some of the most asinine character traits from his version in the 2012 TV series, like being too dumb to live, always making himself a costly liability in ninja missions, thinks only of pizza 24/7, and is both the cause and ex machina solution to everyone's problems. These problems didn't used to be so bad in the 2012 TV series itself, but they became bad to the point where any good character development Mikey had would repeatedly be undone by his next derailment, because the writers increasingly had no interest in portraying him as a well-rounded character, and seemed far more interested in writing him as a turtle version of Patrick Star.

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    • Fishface405 wrote:
      Y'know, instead of dealing with the "Mutant Apocalypes" and the "Monster" stories for season 5, why don't they give each individual mutant like Snakeweed and Spider Bytez their last episode where in the end they get turned back in the end. That would be nice. I also want to see Justin again... *Meow* :>

      I actually love the monster episodes (so far) and don't hate any of the "tales" outright...but this season would have been better served with six more episodes as you described. I would have loved it if in the end, all the bad mutants ended up getting cured....but the actively, willingly criminal ones were arrested and sent to jail right afterward, reminding me of a certain Gargoyles quote, "If you're human, then you're subject to human laws."

      Heck, there are other kids like Martin and Jason who just caught up in the mutagen mess and are now permanently freaks. I could understand it in the 80's series, but it's 30 years later.

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    • I had the impression Martin was already an adult. Like he was something of a shut-in, maybe.

      But Jason's story is tragic. I didn't approve of him joining the Mutanimals—he should find a way to go back to high school or something. He's a cautionary tale of parental abandonment, child homelessness and criminal child exploitation. He can't even fight worth crap, and yet the "good guys" put him on a battlefield, fighting Triceratons and organized crime gangs? What he needed was a social worker.

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    • Gilgameshkun:

      HAD YOU BEEN CREATING A 2012 SERIES FANFICTION PROJECT???

      Ya shouldn't have give up,man. I know what I said about "the alternative continuity" but you said you worked on it for years ...

      I just say; It could actually have worked.

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    • I didn't give up. I just didn't want to consider releasing any of it until it was finished. And it's not finished. And since it's now in its own alternate reality, I've also made it relatively more Mirage-like and not for kids. I haven't given up on it, but there's still a possibility it may never be finished, either.

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    • Angel Bridge wrote:
      Gilgameshkun:

      HAD YOU BEEN CREATING A 2012 SERIES FANFICTION PROJECT???

      Ya shouldn't have give up,man. I know what I said about "the alternative continuity" but you said you worked on it for years ...

      I just say; It could actually have worked.

      What did you say? I don't see that post here...

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    • Gilgameshkun wrote:
      Thread:118605#14

      I meant that Angel Bridge said that he/she had said something about the subject, but I didn't see his/her previous post.

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    • Not sure what you're talking about, then, so I'll let Angel Bridge answer if they're going to.

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    • Easol1 :

      Gilgameshkun wrote that post here :Thread:118605#14. It's the first thing he said,if you still don't understand,I can't help you. I know I shouldn't have mentioned anything that isn't about this topic,if that's the trouble,but anyway,you guys stoped to talk (particularly) about Timothy long ago.

      Gilgameshkun :

      That's good. Concluding, I think a lot of fans will like it (including me) If youever—release it.,BYE!

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    • Easol1 wrote:

      Fishface405 wrote:
      Yeah... The 2012 series is pretty much dead now. I mean after I watched the "Mutant Apocalypes" arc, I officially gave up on the series.

      So disjointed and harmful an arc that Nickelodeon literally had to declare it non-canon.

      You don't know that.

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    • TMNTInsighter wrote:

      Easol1 wrote:

      Fishface405 wrote:
      Yeah... The 2012 series is pretty much dead now. I mean after I watched the "Mutant Apocalypes" arc, I officially gave up on the series.
      So disjointed and harmful an arc that Nickelodeon literally had to declare it non-canon.

      You don't know that.

      I know that they declared it non-canon/AU, if that's what you are suggesting. The official twitter, run by Nickelodeon, said so on more than one occasion.

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    • Easol1 wrote:

      TMNTInsighter wrote:

      Easol1 wrote:

      Fishface405 wrote:
      Yeah... The 2012 series is pretty much dead now. I mean after I watched the "Mutant Apocalypes" arc, I officially gave up on the series.
      So disjointed and harmful an arc that Nickelodeon literally had to declare it non-canon.

      You don't know that.

      I know that they declared it non-canon/AU, if that's what you are suggesting. The official twitter, run by Nickelodeon, said so on more than one occasion.

      That's not an official authority/page. Plus why do I have to listen to that person, Brandon Auman, or whoever else? It's my opinion! I watched the episode and I know how to make my own conclusion(s) and the fact is that there's no in-episode evidence to confirm it's not canon/official. I judge a show the way it should be: by what's right there on the screen.

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    • TMNTInsighter wrote:

      Easol1 wrote:

      TMNTInsighter wrote:

      Easol1 wrote:


      Fishface405 wrote:
      Yeah... The 2012 series is pretty much dead now. I mean after I watched the "Mutant Apocalypes" arc, I officially gave up on the series.
      So disjointed and harmful an arc that Nickelodeon literally had to declare it non-canon.
      You don't know that.
      I know that they declared it non-canon/AU, if that's what you are suggesting. The official twitter, run by Nickelodeon, said so on more than one occasion.

      That's not an official authority/page. Plus why do I have to listen to that person, Brandon Auman, or whoever else? It's my opinion! I watched the episode and I know how to make my own conclusion(s) and the fact is that there's no in-episode evidence to confirm it's not canon/official. I judge a show the way it should be: by what's right there on the screen.

      Technically, yes, it is official; the persons running it wouldn't be allowed to proffer opinions or viewpoints counter to those of the people in charge, and any such content would not be allowed to stay. It also lines up perfectly with decisions made relating to that arc (such as the rescheduling and the promotional material).

      As for in-episode evidence, that's just fine; it's a valid opinion. 

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