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  • I think this can be a tricky distinction. In my opinion, articles like Connecticut River can go in Category:Locations in Massachusetts despite also flowing through other states, because it's an article and not a category. But Category:Locations in the New York City metropolitan area is a category, and it contains both articles and subcategories. For the most part, the ancestor categories should ideally still be applicable to the articles contained, however many subcategories deep. And as the New York City metropolitan area actually spans parts of three states (southernmost New York, northern New Jersey and southwestern Connecticut), it would be inappropriate for a place like Jersey City, New Jersey to be in a category whose parent categories include Category:Locations in New York. The state of New York and the NYC metro area significantly overlap (most importantly at New York City itself), but they are separate areas that in many other places do not overlap at all.

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  • Yes, there are fish who live out of water.

    See the Wikipedia articles for lungfish and mudskippers, which are fish who can live out of water. And though they are generally the exception among modern non-tetrapod fish, bony fish do have an evolutionary history of breathing atmospheric oxygen: Interestingly enough, the swim bladders of most bony fish actually evolved from a previous lung that gained and then lost the ability to breathe air. (More divergent branches of fish like sharks and rays never had lungs, and do not have a swim bladder.) Double-checked—I had it backwards, as lungs evolved from swim bladders, not vice versa. But certain fish like lungfish do have true lungs.

    And technically, all terrestrial vertebrates (including humans) originally evolved from lobe-finned fish. In fact, you may observe that Turtlepedia categories for real life species largely observe a cladistic structure (a tree of evolutionary branching), so that Category:Humans are a subcategory of Category:Apes, and so on through Category:Primates, Category:Mammals, Category:Reptiles, Category:Amphibians and Category:Fish. And while it would make very little sense to directly categorize characters like Splinter or Leatherhead as fish (they are not fish in the familiar sense), they are still fish cladistically, and are covered as such indirectly by the parent category hierarchy.

    Among other TMNT characters, there's also incarnations of Man Ray and Xever Montes as well as Bludgeon, who primarily live on land but can also swim. And if I recall correctly, it's never specifically said that the Other cannot swim. :)

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  • Out of curiosity (and perhaps I've just forgotten), what's the source or plot deconstruction for him being a sociopath? Many if not most antagonists are not necessarily sociopaths; even IDW Krang was a mess of daddy issues, responsibilities and rationalizations. There are many different reasons for evil besides a pathological lack of empathy.

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    • He destroyed entire planets in his search for the Turnstone. Even Cherubae referred to him as ruthless.

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    • Yes, but that still doesn't satisfy the criteria of a sociopath. He has to be identified as one in-story, or his sociopathic disposition revealed or deconstructed.

      Keep in mind that this Krang isn't the only antagonist who ruthlessly wipes out entire planets' populations in pursuit of a goal. Michelangelo (Mirage)—the original Mikey—becomes a willing participant in genocide in TMNT Volume 4 after undergoing heavy psychological trauma, and is even aware he is killing civilians and farmers in their fields. (He badly needs a splintervention, but the story stopped publication without a resolution, and only Peter Laird knows what'll happen next.)

      Motives and personal values matter. Ordinary people can be capable of doing absolutely horrific things if they're convinced it's the lesser of two evils, or to protect home and family. And sometimes, as in Mikey's case, unresolved post-traumatic stress disorder is taking its toll. Archie's Krang may or may not be a sociopath, but it helps to know what drives him. He appears ruthless, but so many character backstories reveal a moral side suppressed by a mishmash of personal reasons, justifications and rationalizations for their actions.

      Some sociopathy reveals have been relatively simple and straightforward. Zodi plain lacks any moral inhibitions whatsoever. Baxter Stockman (Mirage) does every depraved thing he does simply because it's fun. Jonathan Bishop finds "so-called ethics" completely useless and feels no compassion for anyone. Bebop (IDW) and Rocksteady (IDW) for a while toy with the idea of going legit and living honest lives, but only because they think it makes people look cool; when faced with a serious moral decision, it turns out they are complete monsters and they fully embrace and delight in that. Donatello (digital duplicate) (IDW) became a sociopath after systematically deleting all his emotions so he'd stop feeling so much psychological pain, but then no longer had any conscience whatsoever.

      But other major antagonists, like Krang (IDW) and Oroku Saki (IDW), are not sociopaths at all, but instead are very complex characters with an entire luggage carousel of personal baggage. It doesn't matter how many billions IDW Krang has killed or that he tried to wipe out all life on Earth—he's driven by past traumas and a belief that he's justified in his actions. In fact, in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Utrom Empire miniseries, Zayton Honeycutt (IDW) is forced to work with both Krang and Baxter Stockman (IDW), and though it's clear Stockman is being coerced into cooperating just as much as Honeycutt is, and Honeycutt tries to forge an alliance with him, Honeycutt soon realizes that Stockman is "the purer evil" between him and Krang, as Stockman is completely unmoored by any concerns beyond self-interest, and at least Krang values certain things and people and virtues he considers greater than himself. Slash (Archie) was thought to be a sociopath, and he certainly suffers from violent mental illness, but his last act is out of selfless love for his friends in spite of a life of serial murder and bloodlust.

      Understand what I'm saying? Horrifically bad acts are not enough. A sociopath is more about the brain than about just evil acts themselves. If you or anyone else can find a source for Archie's Krang being deemed a sociopath, that would help.

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    • I hope I wasn't too long-winded. ^^;

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  • Hello,

    I was curious as to why you decided to make "Church buildings" a sub-category of Places of Worship, considering Places of Worship was at the time exclusively churches and now has no other content than the sub-category.

    It feels... redundant and wasteful, to me.

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    • Sorry, I thought I placed a "moving to/from" on that one. I did a lot this morning to try to keep me awake, so I might have missed one.

      I figured "in-universe" made more sense than fictional, since a lot of them aren't fictional musicians, just fictional representations.

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    • That makes sense. After you did that, I added to/from for other occupation categories from "fictional" to "in-universe".

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    This is not an article. This is two sentences that barely give the reader an idea of what they're looking at. There's no image, no information other than "this exists". It's not even a Stub. It's less than barebones.

    This isn't even the only example of such an "article" that you've made as of recent; it's just one of the worst examples.

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    • That screenshot is a good reminder of why I'm glad I edited my user stylesheet to use a different font than Helvetica/Arial. Though I kind of wish my new font Sen had true italics instead of default OS-rendered obliques.

      On topic: I initially took interest in this thread because I've been guilty of the same thing in the past. It is all too easy to make an article as brief as possible, but the test of whether it's too brief is whether you could easily copy its text for a separate article without significantly changing it. Articles need at least a minimum of basic substance that distinguish them from their most closely related neighbors.

      ...But I'm still looking for that perfect sans-serif font with true italics.

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  • Hello, Original TMNT Cartoon Fan. This is Jordanbatista.

    I was wondering to tell you that you made a 2003 Story arcs/Sagas page for the Story Arcs page.

    So, I was wondering that Are there other Story arcs/Sagas from the 2003 4Kids Series of TMNT do you Know about? (PLEASE REPLY)

    Thanks. I appreciate it.

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  • What about Fleetway indicates that it's a seperate universe from Archie? I know it has original stories/characters but as far as I know none of it contradicts Archie's continuity. Plus like more than half of the stories are Archie reprints anyway, innit?

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  • I don't spam. I just tried to add the dialogue lines for the episodes from that website.

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  • Hello? Sorry that I messed up the Raphael (2012) page.. can you fix it for me? I apologized for messing it up.

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    • Thank you and I promise to not mess up the pages again and instead tell the admins/moderators I found a mistake in the pages. Thank you..

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  • Please consult with an administrator or open a blog post. This is part of the Policy.

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