Gilgameshkun wrote: Yeah. This is one of the reasons I like drama and prefer TMNT to be drama (or dramedy). It's like a good nourishing diet, rather than a dessert with empty calories. Maybe when I was 7 years old I wanted to eat cake and cookies for dinner, but now I crave sustenance in storytelling. But since the audience of Rise is expected to be 7, it's just another reason I want a TMNT television series for adults. Adults who watch it for adult-minded reasons, and not just adults chasing childhood nostalgia for cartoons they watched when they were 7 years old.
Speaking of which, I'm working on a TMNT series of my own.
You mean, like, screenwriting?
Eh, more like a fanfiction (at first), called TMNT: Heroes in a Hard-Shell. In it, Shredder debuts at the end of the 1st season finale, and the reason Splinter doesn't tell the Turtles about his past with Saki is because he fears that they'd think less of him for running from a fight.
You'd think with adult cartoons/animation becoming less and less taboo, that would be the natural and inevitable next step for TMNT to take. With a long history of TMNT comic series geared towards adults, clearly there is an audience that would watch it.
Sort of like how superheroes used to be seen as "kiddy stuff", but over the years as the public perception of superheroes changed, characters like Batman were eventually allowed to explore their darker comic roots and allowed to have more adult films.
I'd imagine TMNT will eventually do the same and be allowed to have more adult cartoons as the public perception of animation changes - animation clearly isn't primarily geared towards kids anymore.
Aquamarine1212 wrote: You'd think with adult cartoons/animation becoming less and less taboo, that would be the natural and inevitable next step for TMNT to take. With a long history of TMNT comic series geared towards adults, clearly there is an audience that would watch it.
Sort of like how superheroes used to be seen as "kiddy stuff", but over the years as the public perception of superheroes changed, characters like Batman were eventually allowed to explore their darker comic roots and allowed to have more adult films.
I'd imagine TMNT will eventually do the same and be allowed to have more adult cartoons as the public perception of animation changes - animation clearly isn't primarily geared towards kids anymore.
Perhaps someday.
I'm still not ready for the 2012 series. It was always too childishly-animated for me. I liked the one before it more.
The 2012 series had a promising beginning, but was also under the delusion that it was the mature TMNT. By the end, it convinced me that TMNT had not two audiences (adults and children) but three audiences (two of which are adults, and two of which are children—enjoy that brainteaser). 1987 series fans have long since aged into adulthood, but many of their TMNT interests and their audience maturity levels have not grown up. What the 2012 series became was a neither-nor, which many parents thought was too violent or racy to let their children watch, and which many adults still saw as far too bubblegum to be a proper mature TMNT. It tried to please everyone, and instead in many instances ended up pleasing no one.
Gilgameshkun wrote: The 2012 series had a promising beginning, but was also under the delusion that it was the mature TMNT. By the end, it convinced me that TMNT had not two audiences (adults and children) but three audiences (two of which are adults, and two of which are children—enjoy that brainteaser). 1987 series fans have long since aged into adulthood, but many of their TMNT interests and their audience maturity levels have not grown up. What the 2012 series became was a neither-nor, which many parents thought was too violent or racy to let their children watch, and which many adults still saw as far too bubblegum to be a proper mature TMNT. It tried to please everyone, and instead in many instances ended up pleasing no one.
"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody."
I thought the 2012 show has a nice balance with the light/funny/crazy moments mixed in with the darker, horror elements.   Good times :)