<div class="quote"><i>Sugilita wrote:
A second female turtle? Well, the 4 guys are not unique anymore. I loved the concept of them being unique. But now there are 6 turtles in IDW comics.</i></div>
<p>And that's kind of my issue with Jennika and the whole over abundance of mutants. I mean I was fine with Slash and the Mutanimals, because the were only a handful of mutants but now it seems like there's going to be a whole lot more coming. </p><p>To me, the TMNT being four and only four was... kind of part of who they are, but then again this is coming from someone who tends to favor Mirage and Image more. IDW kind of had that at first, but then they started re-intergrating characters from the Fred Wolf, 4Kids and the Nick series... which I was okay with at first but... I dunno now. </p><p>Just... there's too many Turtles, and I think that kind of makes the TMNT less unique. Gotta agree with Sugilita here with that. </p>

<p>I don't necessarily mind there being more mutants or more mutant turtles. But what I really like in a <i>TMNT</i> story is a continual reminder of how vulnerably <i>human</i> they all are. I mean, sure, sometimes the inside of a lair or abandoned warehouse has an impressive home, but oftentimes that just means a relative measure of luck and success. In truth, there was never anything glamorous about squatting in a storm drain, or trying not to freeze to death in a water tower. In Mirage, many of the Turtles' moments of relative comfort came from the kindness of their lasting friends like April or Casey, but even those friends could be startling vulnerable without warning. IDW has, for the most part, kept the human vulnerability and the difficult living conditions easy to remember, with safe and comfortable dwellings being more a latter of perseverence and luck than anything else. </p><p>Take the Mutanimals, for instance. They aren't wannabe superheroes living on an idyllic Caribbean island, living off what I can only assume is Mondo's trust fund. No, IDW's Mutanimals are squatting in an abandoned building. Hob is a serially traumatized revolutionary idealogue who just screams the word "damaged" in everything he says and does. And while the people who work under him are willing to sign on to his cause, even they want peaceful lives someday, not just for other vulnerable mutants, but for themselves as well. These Mutanimals for the large part have no superhero powers, and don't act like superheroes either. What they've been able to do is to pool determination, skills and resources towards their shared success and survival. Some of them are little more than children—Slash with his crisis of purpose, Pete with his happy-go-lucky cluelessness, Seymour with his extreme mortal vulnerabilities, and stepford-smiling Mondo who has become increasingly traumatized from being in one too many horrific situations. Of the more adult-like members, Sally is never afraid to tell anyone what's on her mind, and how much she <i>doesn't</i> want Hob lying to friends or biting off way more than they can chew. Ray is loved like family, but is no stranger to questionable ethics. Herman can be friendly and kind, but at times disturbingly uncritical of Hob's strategies. And yet in all these characters, these attributes are very realistically human. None of them are perfectly good nor irredeemably bad, and they are all vulnerable, as we devastatingly saw in Slash's case. </p><p>So, sometimes in a <i>TMNT</i> continuity there can be too many throwaway mutant monsters-of-the-week, or characters whose abilities are too god-mode. These things may be part and parcel of a mutant superhero genre. But <i>TMNT</i> comics are for the most part neo-noir and shinobi genres, and many of its mutant characters, appearances aside, can be strikingly ordinary people in a less-than-perfect world. I've seen a bit of this down-to-earth mutant appeal bleeding a little into <i>Rise of the TMNT,</i> too, with characters like Warren and Hypno paying rent in an apartment that is perhaps too small for them, and Todd operating a low-revenue small business even as he struggles paying his bills and creditors, and Repo operating a shady but public salvage business, and the Hidden City having a significant and recognizable everyday-life aspect to it like any other city that isn't so hidden. No, more mutants and more mutant turtles are not necessarily a bad thing. They just need balance. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Giger Van Gogh wrote:<div class="quote">Sugilita wrote:
A second female turtle? Well, the 4 guys are not unique anymore. I loved the concept of them being unique. But now there are 6 turtles in IDW comics.</i></div>
And that's kind of my issue with Jennika and the whole over abundance of mutants. I mean I was fine with Slash and the Mutanimals, because the were only a handful of mutants but now it seems like there's going to be a whole lot more coming. <p>To me, the TMNT being four and only four was... kind of part of who they are, but then again this is coming from someone who tends to favor Mirage and Image more. IDW kind of had that at first, but then they started re-intergrating characters from the Fred Wolf, 4Kids and the Nick series... which I was okay with at first but... I dunno now. </p><p>Just... there's too many Turtles, and I think that kind of makes the TMNT less unique. Gotta agree with Sugilita here with that. </p> </div> <p>Well, to be fair, IDW never pretended they weren't going to add more mutants to the mix. The very first scene of the very first issue introduced a brand-new mutant character who is still an active party today, and the inclusion of Null mutants happened quite some time ago. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Easol1 wrote:<div class="quote">Giger Van Gogh wrote:<div class="quote">Sugilita wrote:
A second female turtle? Well, the 4 guys are not unique anymore. I loved the concept of them being unique. But now there are 6 turtles in IDW comics.</i></div>
And that's kind of my issue with Jennika and the whole over abundance of mutants. I mean I was fine with Slash and the Mutanimals, because the were only a handful of mutants but now it seems like there's going to be a whole lot more coming. <p>To me, the TMNT being four and only four was... kind of part of who they are, but then again this is coming from someone who tends to favor Mirage and Image more. IDW kind of had that at first, but then they started re-intergrating characters from the Fred Wolf, 4Kids and the Nick series... which I was okay with at first but... I dunno now. </p><p>Just... there's too many Turtles, and I think that kind of makes the TMNT less unique. Gotta agree with Sugilita here with that. </p> </div>Well, to be fair, IDW never pretended they weren't going to add more mutants to the mix. The very first scene of the very first issue introduced a brand-new mutant character who is still an active party today, and the inclusion of Null mutants happened quite some time ago. </div> <p>Kevin said she added to mix and she has to become a main character for feminism.he said me and fans didn't like Venus but jennika  is a very good and ful female character(i dont know why but i think people love venus more at least in this wiki)but feminism can ruin movies and series(im a girl but i dont agree) because they make girl wild and weak.even those movies and series are often drama in a action shape.also teenage mutant ninja turtles has four words not more!for this im not disagree but jennika is a wild like other girls in movies and series. </p>

Etuojn: Thank you for using punctuation.

<div class="quote"><i>Etuojn wrote:<div class="quote">Kevin said she added to mix and she has to become a main character for feminism.he said me and fans didn't like Venus but jennika  is a very good and ful female character(i dont know why but i think people love venus more at least in this wiki)but feminism can ruin movies and series(im a girl but i dont agree) because they make girl wild and weak.even those movies and series are often drama in a action shape.also teenage mutant ninja turtles has four words not more!for this im not disagree but jennika is a wild like other girls in movies and series.</i></div>
</div> <p>I know the interview which you are speaking about. Either BleedingCool or ComicBookNews hosted it. He said he was mostly inspired by Captain Marvel to put Jennika into the comics which raises a red flag to me because Captain Marvel isn't really as popular as Marvel/Disney wants to make her out to be, and Captain Marvel hasn't been selling as far as comic books are concerned, she's already been rebooted more than a few times. </p>

<p>From what I hear, <i>most</i> of the Marvel comic books haven't been selling well in recent years, in large part <i>because</i> they've been rebooted repeatedly. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Gilgameshkun wrote:
From what I hear, <i>most</i> of the Marvel comic books haven't been selling well in recent years, in large part <i>because</i> they've been rebooted repeatedly.</i></div>
<p>I normally don't read Marvel, but the only ones that I do are Venom and Spider-Gwen seeing as those are the only two characters in Marvel I thoroughly enjoy but... the medium as a whole, and I mean comics in general hasn't recovered since the bubble burst in the 90s. Sure, it's picked up in years but it hasn't been the same as it was before. </p><p>In the case of Marvel, that company has been losing readers since the Disney purchase. Now more than ever because readers are just not enjoying whatever stories and creative decisions they've done with certain characters or created characters that just aren't resonating with readers. </p>

<p>Okay. I don't read Marvel, either. Or DC. Or the superhero genre in general. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Gilgameshkun wrote:
Okay. I don't read Marvel, either. Or DC. Or the superhero genre in general.</i></div>
<p>I hate Marvel after Fortnite </p>