Talk:Mei Pieh Chi

Opinions
Down with Laird! Bring Back Venus! SonofSamhain 08:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's my opinion - you need to stop attempting to call out and insult people - even if they won't read it - in Talk Pages of a Wiki. The S 03:12, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

We need to bring Venus back now.
Honestly I don't care what Laird says about Venus. She is awesome! Before anyone like Laird just goes out of their ways to criticise Venus they should layoff and give her another chance. I hope to God that Venus comes back with her brothers and master.

Changes for Venus
If Venus de Milo does come back to TMNT there should be a few changes for her. First off they should at least change her signature color from cyan to black, white or pink. Next they should give her a pair of signature weapons like tessens (iron folded fans). Like the Ninja Tribunal she should be a part of it and she would be a Sentou-Shisho: a Ninjutsu Master of Combat, along with a partner ninja and her tribunal weapon should be a dart/kunai holding steel fan and in her dragon form she will resemble a sea serpant with arms, a flowing mane, sharp fins and a chest and limb armor. And her signature nature element should be Water (ex. Leonardo's nature element is Wind, Raphael's element is Fire, Michelangelo's is Earth, and Donatello's element is Lightning). And this is in Mutant Nightmares. Speaking of games, if she were to be a playable turtle like her brothers she would have her own signature techniques. Like in TMNT 2: Battle Nexus, Venus' signature attack would be "Turtle Gust" (ex. Leo's attack is "Turtle Slash", Raph's signature attack is "Turtle Flame", Mikey's attack is "Fire Blasts" and Don's is "Shell Bash"). And like in TMNT 3: Mutant Nightmares, Venus' attack should be "Water Spout" (ex. Leo's is "Slash Wave", Raph's is "Fire Spiral", Mikey's is "Tornado Blast", and Don's is "Lightning Bolt"), but also when she becomes an Ultimate Turtle her features will include runes or marks around her body, her shin gaurds will be spikey, her tessens will become larger and more powerful and it includes an oni's face on them, her shell will have the symbol of Water on it and will have bubble-like aura around it and she will have a water-like chain necklace. Keep her chinese accent, but change her background/origin to where she was actually with the turtles, just seperated for weeks not years. And also let her hobbies be drawing and painting. These will be her new changes for when she returns.

What's wrong with cyan? If any changes are to be made, I'd settle for just her being a real ninja and none of that shinobi magic nonsense.

SonofSamhain 05:53, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with cyan, its just that half the fans could think of her as the female version of Leo and that her color should not be a shade of blue. She has been disliked by fans because she was made as a shinobi (which many people has clarified that "shinobi" is the same as ninja, but I think it means either a high level ninja or a mystic/spiritual/magic ninja) and that she just appeared into the turtles' family as an exclusive member. But half of the TMNT fans like her just the way she was, but at some point wished for the creators to change her origin, give her her own pair of weapons and make her as the turtles' sister. And when it comes to fighting or sparring, Venus is a really skilled fighter, even able to defeat her own brothers fairly. And I think she is the middle child among her brothers (ex. Leo is the eldest, Raph is the second oldest, Don is the second to last and Mikey is the youngest). My guess is that Venus didn't get enough credit and was hated by Laird for possibly the stupidest reason, I think the reason is that she wasn't his creation and that The Next Mutation was not that good and that the show itself pretty much screwed up her character. Nothing is wrong with Venus for existing, but there should be a few changes for her.

Yes, I know all that stuff
You might find this weird, but I saw this show when I was a child. Until recently, I thought it was a cool show. One thing that went wrong with the show was that they made it a cheap Power Rangers clone(News flash, Saban! Just because you make it like another franchise you're famous for doesn't mean it'll be as popular). I also came up with a new back story for her. There really were five turtles that fell into the sewer(and they are blood relatives), but when they were mutated, Venus was way too shy to show herself to her brothers and her adoptive father. She ran off to the Chinatown district, where she met a sensei named Myamoto Usagi. Usagi taught her several secrets of stealth and combat, making her as skilled a ninja as her brothers. In addition, she learned how to manipulate Chi energy(mainly to just trip up her enemies and heal fallen comrades). Still not ready to meet up with her family, she donned a hooded cloak and secretly helped her four brothers fend off the Shredder's henchmen(during which, she inadvertently created Leatherhead and the Rat King). In the end, she finally has the nerve to let Don, Leo, Raph, and Mikey know of her existence and she helps them defeat the Shredder and his minions and send them to Dimension X(which in my rendition is used as a prison by intergalactic policemen, rather than Krang's home) after freeing an Utrom named Granitor. Back at the sewers, she removes her cloak. Donatello uses a scanner to confirm that she is both their sister and was created from the same mutagen that mutated them. She is then given her own bandanna and is trained to use shurikens(it was the only martial arts-related weapon I could think of that was not used by the other turtles). Splinter then proceeds to name her Venus de Milo after his favorite sculpture. As much as I'd like it if they changed Venus, I'd like it if they stayed as close to the way I remembered her, without making her a useless fifth turtle. If the color of her bandanna is going to be changed, I'd like it to be white. Pink won't do. No way they're gonna make her a stereotypical female that's all like "Kiss my ass, or I'll kiss yours, you chauvinistic man-pig!" or "I'm just a girl! I can't do anything by myself!"

SonofSamhain 08:03, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

You know, I don't usually say this to a lot of people, but your ideas for her story and changes are pretty cool. I think that Venus would have been a kick-ass character if these kinds of ideas. And since Nickelodeon now has all rights and the possession of TMNT, it is highly possible that she will return and hopefully with a new and better storyline/origin that includes better features. Now I wonder if any other fan of TMNT has a change of heart for Venus.

As we already know about Venus...
Venus is, if you really think about it, a lot like her brothers. She makes funny or crack jokes when fighting enemies. She, just like her brothers, will ride on a board with them and would, at times, scold her brothers if they fight or act immature. Venus is somewhat the peacekeeper among her brothers and is basically a mother figure. She learns much from her family in New York which makes her a true teenager.

Venus' artwork
I am now curious if many TMNT fans have seen Venus' artwork or fanart. It is just cool seeing her fan made pictures because it shows how much the fans really like her or possibly love her. The pictures of fanart that I find are on deviantart and I have to say they are really impressive and so cool. Has anyone noticed how hot and acceptable she is now?

I've seen the artwork. If I ever get around to it, I may even add some to my favorites. My username there is LuciferTheShort. I even posted a couple there myself.

SonofSamhain 05:33, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Roles
If Venus were to appear in all comics, animated series and movies, what would be roles in each of them? For me I think her role in the movies would be the peacekeeper of her family, often breaking up the fights between Leo and Raph. If it was the TMNT CGI movie she would have been at auctions trying to sell her drawings and paintings to help support the family and she will act like a mother towards her brothers. Her role in comics would be very similar to brothers, but since she is female, she will be more spunky and a bit of a badass. I don't know, I never exactly read the TMNT comics, so I don't know whats going on in there. And as for the animated series she would be spunky, sweet and a more skilled fighter. She, unlike her brothers, would also have healing powers and would get hit on by certain guys once they see her. These are what I think her roles would be. What are yours?

I actually agree with your ideas. I always saw Venus as being the voice of reason.

SonofSamhain 13:31, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Relationships
Since many characters have some sort of relationships with each other, I wonder what Venus' relationships are. I think Venus can relate to her family more than humans. With Leo, she would understand him better as the leader and that both of them always listen and obey their master/father Splinter. She would also look up to Leo as her older brother, even though she acts as voice of reason among the turtles. For Raph, she would have a bit of sibling rivalry with him when they are sparring, since Raph is quite competitive and Venus is a much better fighter. She still admires Raph's persistance, strength and will to protect his family, while Raph admires her fighting skills. For Mikey, she and he would have a typical big sister/little brother relationship. Just like how Mikey tends to annoy the family with his near party obsessed, hyperactive, and carefree antics, Venus would also become annoyed if Mikey does something stupid and at times thinks he is funny and Mikey would think she is cute. For Don, she will always get confused with Don's inventions. If she were to keep her magic abilities her relationship with Don would be a bit complex because when it comes to magic and science, Venus and Don are kinda like polar opposites, but they still care for each other. She has more relationships with her family, thats I what think.

I had my own ideas for that. As you might know, Myamoto Usagi was an anthropomorphic rabbit samurai. My rendition had him depicted as a human sensei who often wears a rabbit mask. As mentioned earlier, I had him train Venus. I was thinking Venus could have a best friend relationship with April O'Neil. Casey Jones, I'm not sure. She would also have close relationships with my rendition of Slash. My version of Slash is depicted as a clone of the turtles created by the Shredder in a plot to destroy the turtles. Unfortunately, he doesn't have all of the turtles' powers and shares some of there weaknesses(such as Mikey's pizza addiction). Like the Archie Comics version of the character, he eventually reforms. Leatherhead and Rat King hold a personal grudge since she inadvertently caused the accidents that created them. Leatherhead and Rat King in my version were originally known as Kevin Conrad and Hannibal Lord. Krang sent them to steal mutagenic substances from a lab, but Venus defeated them and dumped the substances on the two. Kevin was mutated into an alligator man, while Hannibal was horribly disfigured and gained the ability to telepathically communicate to rats. Leatherhead later atones his crimes and becomes a reserve member of the Mutanimals, along with Slash.

SonofSamhain 17:02, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

What do you think of Venus
I wonder what are the thoughts of the TMNT fans about Venus. For me, I think she is really cute. She is a cool and a real kickass fighter. And the fact that she was raised in China and learning from her brothers in New York, she was kinda funny and cute the way she gets many words or phrases wrong/mispronounced. I also think that when she gets hit on other guys and turns them down is a bit funny. I think she could've been in all other TMNT media if she was given a second chance.

I think it's cool that she's a female turtle. It's also funny how she'd often mix up aspects of American cultures and idioms(like when she said "easy as cake" and "piece of pie"). I just don't know Laird's problem. It's almost like he disliked her just to be a pain in the butt(don't get me wrong. Just because he has an animosity towards V-Girl doesn't mean he's a complete jerk. If it weren't for him, they would've killed of Leatherhead, and he's one of my favorite TMNT characters)

SonofSamhain 17:28, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thats a bit understandable, but if they were to get rid of one or two characters they should've gotten rid some of the lame excuses for villians instead of getting rid the one hero who is a great asset to the turtles. After all, Venus is a ninja turtle and I have been reading some comments about her and a lot of the TMNT fans were saddened and upset that she was pretty much scrapped and that the show The Next Mutation was discontinued. Even though the show was cancelled fans including myself still watch it on the internet. My point is that Laird made that one mistake on scrapping her especially since many fans loved Venus and they still like her today.

Hey, what are Venus' abilities?
You know now I wonder what are Venus' special and physical abilities? I think her abilities includes peak strength, enhanced speed possibly even faster than her brothers, a skilled martial artist even able to defeat each of her brothers in a fair fight, spiritual magic or energy control, like her brothers she is an excellent gymnast, good stealth, expert on handling various weapons mostly her tessens, she is also a ninjutsu master of combat, and to some extent has the ability to sense emotions from other living creatures. For me, Venus has the power of the nature element water, peak mutant turtle strength, durability and speed, a much skilled fighter, and a deep meditator. What abilities do you know or think she, even ones you made up?