Talk:The Big Blow-Out!/@comment-4783859-20171115205000/@comment-33378883-20171117044836

Calling everything that you dislike bad writing is a little bit too easy don't you think?

1) I can't speak for Easol1, but  I'm not saying it's bad writing.  I'm saying it's abysmal writing.  The kind that causes wailing and much gnashing of teeth.

2) Personally, one of the reasons I dislike the arc is  because of the abysmal writing.  Because of the plot holes that coalesce into a massive plot abyss, into which the story collapses and falls screaming to its inevitable doom.  Because of Leo's severely OOC behavior at the end (you know, the part where he doesn't seem to care that he just spent decades killing people and conquering the wasteland. Just to be clear we're supposedly talking about the same Turtle that would blame himself for things that weren't even his fault. This was not Canon!Leo.).

3)  Calling something "good" just because it is "dark" or "edgy" is a little bit too easy, don't you think ?  ;)  Nihilistic endings aren't automatically good. In fact, the opposite is often the case. Endings need to make sense with the context of the story

I still disagree with you on the female (or overall every character apart from the turtles, to summarize it the best) characters thing though

You are certainly welcome to your opinion, but I will continue to point out the....rather unfortunate implications. It's simply not good writing to fridge important main characters  for not good reason. Whether people like it or not, that is what Karai and April were. Important characters.

At this point we've seen The turtles, April and Casey party so many times after great victories 

In Season 1, yes. However, Season 2 and 3 were definitely downer finales (although I will be forever irritated by Casey's reaction at the end of Annihilation Earth.  I swear to God). Season 4 was bittersweet. Speaking of that,  I actually consider Owari the true ending of the main canon timeline (with Kavaxas as the epilogue). Now, that is a bittersweet ending. Shredder is defeated, but Splinter is gone and never coming back. The turtles and their allies will still have scars from everything they have gone through. Plus, it manages to not contradict canon, and doesn't render everything that came before entirely meaningless.

'''In terms of tone this finale definitively delivered imo. '''

If you liked it, that's fine. I don't pretend to understand it, but will respect your opinion. Just understand that not everybody can ignore the canon contradictions and other flaws. I will continue to argue the exact opposite; that it was a dismal failure riddled with astonishingly poor writing that would have made the series (ie, the Turtles' prior accomplishments) meaningless.... if it were canon.