Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25139993-20181118164850

1. I do not like the Turtles seem more like teenagers for the first time in the 2012 TV series, even though the Turtles just actually and traditionally are teenagers, I still like and do not fully see the 2012 Turtles really acting like teenagers between 2012 and other incarnations or I do not have full teenage experience, except at least Michelangelo looks younger. The 2012 Turtles are at least still seriously for and can handle serious and tough danger and adventure like travel to outer space and saving Earth, in other incarnations like the 2003 and 2014 Turtles at least seem more like adults and even adults can be still immature, joking, uncertain and can't control their temper.

2. For me the 2012 TV series seems even the darkest of all TMNT TV series and one of the most serious and darkest cartoons I have seen, even though at the same time it seems light-toned and according to the Turtlepedia wikia page the 2003 TV series is the darkest of all the TMNT TV series. It similar and seems dark as the TMNT 2007 CGI movie, there are more science fiction horror and apocalyptic, it is the first and only incarnation Splinter dies and are at the same time a bit too serious and dark for the 2012 Turtles if they really act more like teenagers and April and Casey as teenagers than the 2003 Turtles.

3. I didn't like how The 2012 TV series final ended as it wouldn't end yet, there was no Christmas special and April only found clone of and never her real mother like she actually found her real mother and would eventually find her real mother that didn't make sense?

4. The "Pizza Face" episode was the weirdest and meaningless episode. It was weird the antagonist Antonio/Pizza Face was a blob-like pizza monster mutant who wanted to eat humans and didn't make any sense when Michelangelo woke up in his room when a pizza slice of Antonio/Pizza Face was in a pizza in his room as it wasn't over with Antonio/Pizza Face and a good ending and even appeared in a later episode, I hoped it was just a dream. The episode reminds me and at least seems copied of a Jimmy Neutron episode "Sleepless in Retroville" that just also focusing on living pizza monsters who wanted also eat humans which was in a way a dream which didn't make any sense eather.

5. I especially do not like April who has ruined the whole new TMNT 2012 TV series for me, unless I watching non-April O'Neil focusing episodes. Don't like 2012 April O'Neil and others as teenagers (except Miwa/Karai still seems like an adult), as an action girl and especially when she's still just a teenager to become an action girl to go on danger and adventure like the Turtles, become independence stubborn to join in danger and adventure as April tries to be independent and proves she's as skilled as the Turtles even though she's a girl and not even a mutant turtle too, like the Turtles April can already defend herself and even beat other who bigger and muscular than her better than her other adult incarnations to be still just a teenager and even before she knew she had telepathy and telekinesis superpowers to at least defend herself like the Turtles who are at least strong because of both their ninjutsu training and their mutation, don't like to be damsel in distress anymore and even rudely ungrateful when April gets rescued after she started training fighting skills. As when April hit on Donatello's head instead of let him catch her, rudely said "protect yourself " and "nice catch Donnie" to Donatello, rudely and sarcastically said "Oh, great. Saved by Raph" when Raphael tried once to save her and especially already could even beat Raphael who is just the physical strongest of the Turtles. I liked April first in season 1 before after she started training to become a action hero too, then she seemed less independence, stubborn, rude and didn't mind to be damsel in distress as it was same for her to be an action girl or not, even though I

in a way become used to it when she become fully educated kunoichi since she at least become less stubborn and rude as she was first in season 1 and as she always been an action girl. I usually do not like normal human female and/or children characters as action heroes, although April at least is kind a superhuman who has telepathy and telekinesis superpowers which she didn't even know first before after she anyway started training to become an action hero too and at least rarely an action girl in the 2003 incarnation, I especially had liked April better as and didn't mind if she was an action hero too even though she's a girl if she at least become a mutant turtle too as I hoped she would in the 2012 TV series, then at least Apriltello would happened and hope she will be a mutant turtle too in the future TV series.

The reasons why I at least still like the 2012 TV series and is my 2nd favorite TMNT TV series.

The 2012 TV series is at least at the same time funny, the animation is great quality, there are creative plots, anime inspired, there are more science fiction horror and apocalyptic, the appearance in the 2012 TV series is realistic, the characters' styles and designs are creative, inspiring and both realistic and unrealistic, April O'Neil seems like a Mary Sue and especially like the 2012 Turtles' stylized anime style redesigns, reminds me of some other previous generation and my childhood CGI movies and TV series' styles, there are more interspecies romances, I love Michelangelo and Leatherhead's loving band, I love the moment when Tokka understand Raphael's good excuse why he took her baby Chompy Picasso and even let Raphael keep her baby unlike other monsters who become mad for their stolen babies, the last tree parts episode seems like a remake of the movie Turtles Forever, The Turtles and April together reminds of Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic's friends and Christopher Thorndyke from Sonic X, the plot in the half of season 4 similar to and copied of the plot of Sonic X season 3 and especially my favorite characters are at least 2012 Leonardo who some ways reminds me of Sonic the Hedgehog and especially still my favorite turtle 2012 Raphael, but I at same time really dislike and complain about the 2012 TV series more than other TMNT TV series. 