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ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Forum  >  General Discussion board  >  karai and shredder, their relationship and once the truth is revealed*Following1 Kudos karai and shredder, their relationship and once the truth is revealedPurple500 i think once karai figures out that the shredder isn't her real father and lied to her all of these years about everything that she will abandon him. she will then go join splinter and the others or perhaps go somewhere else to figure things out. Topic changed byLeo the Ninja King 10:24, December 20, 2014 ====Topics for this thread:====

i don't know about everyone else but i would love to see her join splinter, the turtles and april. that would be totally awesome. Me too I hope so it would be so epic for season 3 03:23, July 20, 2013 16:00, July 20, 2013 20:44, August 6, 2013 01:03, August 8, 2013 01:04, August 8, 2013 19:08, August 9, 2013 just you watch, Karai will learn that she is Splinter's daughter and join the Turtles fight against Shredder and the Kraang. Or try to fight Shredder alone in anger for being lied to all those years. 21:19, August 9, 2013 23:07, August 9, 2013 03:29, August 15, 2013 That's what I would love to happen but I think Karai's too stubborn to listen anyone (even Shedder sometimes). Plus, she likes being bad. Remember when she tried to get Leo to help her steal the katana? But then again, she teamed up with the Turtles when Shedder wanted her to elimante them. So you never know. true, true. 03:57, August 15, 2013 07:11, October 2, 2013 04:33, October 3, 2013 07:19, November 10, 2013 Thats my only dislike about this whole Karai/Miwa thing. We all know once this happens Karai will soul search or wanna be good. Its a little bit too predictable. I kinda prefer her more as a villian than a hero. I never liked Karai as a villain. She has no idea what Shredder did to her family in Japan. I hope she learns the truth soon. 20:00, November 10, 2013 21:02, November 10, 2013 00:12, November 11, 2013 06:01, November 25, 2013 23:24, November 25, 2013 I agree that it would be very predictable for Karai to suddenly join the "good side" and fight alongside the Turtles. I feel like she wouldn't know which way to go because she wouldn't know who to believe or who she could trust. Except for maybe, Leo. Even in their fiercest encounters, and definitely during Follow the Leader after Leo had defeated her, she always seems like she believes what he says to her (even if she would never admit that to him). So if she were to team up with anyone, I would say it would be Leo. Leo would probably be ecstatic, but that would definitely cause a rift between the Turtles (especially between Leo and Raph's normally turbulent relationship). All good points. I believe that if Karai DOES end up joining the turtles, she'll have her own ideas on how to do things and then she and the turtles will get into arguments about the morality of what she's doing, and then Leo will try to defend her or something, and then Raph will get ticked and say "we can't trust her", and Mikey will be all like, "PIZZA!" and Donny and April will just stand there like, "This is awkward."
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 * Magickrap reply to #2Purple500 wrote:
 * 2 Kudos Ashlee.johnson.18062 She needs to be on Splinter's team. She doesn't seem all that evil and she also seems attached to Leo. And I think she might be getting tired of Shredder's grudge on Splinter cause seriously it's about a girl he couldn't have and poor Tang Shan died all because of Shredder's temper tantrum. If I was Karai I would be tired of hearing it after awhile. You can tell she's conflicting by the look she gives whenever she's told to to do  something like when Shredder told her to kidnap April in "Karai's Vendetta" she walks off looking kind of upset or something. She even looked genuinely betrayed when saw that the Turtles were trying to take down Shredder behind her back in "Enemy of my Enemy" and had called Leo her friend which indicated she felt a little something for him.
 * Vgiannell5 After she learns the truth and Shredder is defeated, she'll probably leave New York on a soul quest hoping to atone for her involvement with the Foot.
 * 1 Kudos Ashlee.johnson.18062 That seems like something she would do. That or she would be in denial for half the season season or more. She was raised to hate Splinter and suddenly learning her so-called enemy is her real father wouldn't really sink in that easily.
 * Ashlee.johnson.18062 I meant to put season once.
 * Mickie15 just you watch, Karai will learn that she is Splinter's daughter and join the Turtles fight against Shredder and the Kraang.
 * 1 Kudos Vgiannell5 reply to #8Mickie15 wrote:
 * Mickie15 that could happen.
 * PEaCoCk.hear.me.cluck That's what I would love to happen but I think Karai's too stubborn to listen anyone (even Shedder sometimes). Plus, she likes being bad. Remember when she tried to get Leo to help her steal the katana? But then again, she teamed up with the Turtles when Shedder wanted her to elimante them. So you never know.
 * 1 Kudos Mickie15 reply to #11PEaCoCk.hear.me.cluck wrote:
 * Vgiannell5 If Karai learns the truth then leaves the Foot, Shredder will just blame Splinter for taking her away from him the same way he took Tang Shen.
 * Mickie15 probably.
 * NightMoonBlue7527 Thats my only dislike about this whole Karai/Miwa thing. We all know once this happens Karai will soul search or wanna be good. Its a little bit too predictable. I kinda prefer her more as a villian than a hero.
 * Vgiannell5 reply to #15NightMoonBlue7527 wrote:
 * Mickie15 same here, Vginnell5.
 * SSM4Raphael <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">I would like it if she found out in the finale of the 2nd season then she does not believe them but it would always be in the back of her head. But sometime in season 3 she believes them, then she is on their side but she does not live with them.
 * Leofan13 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">I agree that it would be very predictable for Karai to suddenly join the "good side" and fight alongside the Turtles. I feel like she wouldn't know which way to go because she wouldn't know who to believe or who she could trust. Except for maybe, Leo. Even in their fiercest encounters, and definitely during Follow the Leader after Leo had defeated her, she always seems like she believes what he says to her (even if she would never admit that to him). So if she were to team up with anyone, I would say it would be Leo. Leo would probably be ecstatic, but that would definitely cause a rift between the Turtles (especially between Leo and Raph's normally turbulent relationship).
 * 1 Kudos Mickie15 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">very true Leofan13.
 * 1 Kudos Lady Shoko reply to #19Leofan13 wrote:

And if Donny and April do take sides, it will probably be with Raph (April was against Leo liking Karai in that one episode; I can't remember the name at the moment.  And Donny, who follows logic when he's not mooning over April, will probably think it wise not to place so much trust in Karai)

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">And if not, Karai will go all rebel and strike out on her own, all Karai-like. Edited by Lady Shoko 03:36, November 26, 2013 04:07, November 26, 2013
 * Mickie15 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">man everybody is making great points here. it's awesome.
 * Leofan13 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">@Lady Shoko,

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">The episode was New Girl in Town. 04:16, November 26, 2013 @Lady Shoko, <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">The episode was New Girl in Town. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Oh thanks :-D it was on the tip of my tongue 04:23, November 26, 2013 Leofan13 wrote: @Lady Shoko, <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">The episode was New Girl in Town. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Oh thanks :-D it was on the tip of my tongue <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">No problem. :) 04:48, November 26, 2013
 * Lady Shoko reply to #23Leofan13 wrote:
 * Leofan13 reply to #24<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Lady Shoko wrote:
 * 1 Kudos Nangbaby <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">I don't think Karai finding out the truth is going to make her join the Turtles' side by itself.

Shredder raised her as his daughter and even if she becomes angry with him over the lie, I can't see her breaking away from him just because of that. Shredder is her father. While she might be conflicted, but she's not going to throw away that parental tie. She clearly loves him.

If anything, I think Shredder would be the one to disown her under the right circumstances, and even then, I could see her wanting to each out to him.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I think there has to be something else that will happen to break Karai away from Shredder. 18:30, December 1, 2013 I don't think Karai finding out the truth is going to make her join the Turtles' side by itself.Shredder raised her as his daughter and even if she becomes angry with him over the lie, I can't see her breaking away from him just because of that. Shredder is her father. While she might be conflicted, but she's not going to throw away that parental tie. She clearly loves him.
 * Vgiannell5 reply to #26Nangbaby wrote:

If anything, I think Shredder would be the one to disown her under the right circumstances, and even then, I could see her wanting to each out to him.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I think there has to be something else that will happen to break Karai away from Shredder. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Even if she doesn't join the Turtles, she might help them out whenever they need her on something only she's good at. 19:45, December 1, 2013 19:51, December 1, 2013 I just hope Karai finds out the truth soon. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">same here :-) 20:25, December 1, 2013 Mickie15 wrote:
 * 1 Kudos Mickie15 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">I just hope Karai finds out the truth soon.
 * Lady Shoko reply to #28Mickie15 wrote:
 * Leofan13 reply to #29<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Lady Shoko wrote:

I just hope Karai finds out the truth soon. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">same here :-) <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">She has to know something is up though. Hopefully, Karai isn't that clueless. 04:22, December 2, 2013 Edited by Tmntlove 22:36, December 3, 2013 I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">what? she'll live to the next season. they wouldn't write her out. 01:34, December 4, 2013 Tmntlove wrote:
 * Tmntlove <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out.
 * Mickie15 reply to #31Tmntlove wrote:
 * Leofan13 reply to #32<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Mickie15 wrote:

I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">what? she'll live to the next season. they wouldn't write her out. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Yeah, she isn't exactly a minor character. She never has been. 05:57, December 4, 2013 I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">but of course your speculating, you see there is a difference between what people think is gonna happen and what we know is gonna happen. you really shouldnt say that shes not gonna live till the next season because you have know evedence and your gonna confuse people on here. then some people are gonna try too right stuff like that on the pages then people get blocked and banned. so please if your gonna speculate please say that you are speculating so no one gets confused. 06:02, December 4, 2013 Thats my only dislike about this whole Karai/Miwa thing. We all know once this happens Karai will soul search or wanna be good. Its a little bit too predictable. I kinda prefer her more as a villian than a hero. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">This person gets it. Karai is evil. She's my fave. I like her veil. Plus, what about leo? Their relationship just wouldn't be the same Edited by Orangeapplett 23:03, December 6, 2013 Tmntlove wrote:
 * Trigger009 reply to #31Tmntlove wrote:
 * Orangeapplett reply to #15NightMoonBlue7527 wrote:
 * Tmntlove reply to #34Trigger009 wrote:

I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out.but of course your speculating, you see there is a difference between what people think is gonna happen and what we know is gonna happen. you really shouldnt say that shes not gonna live till the next season because you have know evedence and your gonna confuse people on here. then some people are gonna try too right stuff like that on the pages then people get blocked and banned. so please if your gonna speculate please say that you are speculating so no one gets confused. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">okay it's just how i feel the tv show will go on, i mean the worst thing that would happen is either she'll die or disappear 05:13, December 8, 2013 Trigger009 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out.but of course your speculating, you see there is a difference between what people think is gonna happen and what we know is gonna happen. you really shouldnt say that shes not gonna live till the next season because you have know evedence and your gonna confuse people on here. then some people are gonna try too right stuff like that on the pages then people get blocked and banned. so please if your gonna speculate please say that you are speculating so no one gets confused.
 * Mickie15 reply to #36Tmntlove wrote:

okay it's just how i feel the tv show will go on, i mean the worst thing that would happen is either she'll die or disappear <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">tmntlove says the truth. 01:44, December 9, 2013 Tmntlove wrote: Trigger009 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out.but of course your speculating, you see there is a difference between what people think is gonna happen and what we know is gonna happen. you really shouldnt say that shes not gonna live till the next season because you have know evedence and your gonna confuse people on here. then some people are gonna try too right stuff like that on the pages then people get blocked and banned. so please if your gonna speculate please say that you are speculating so no one gets confused.
 * Tmntlove reply to #37Mickie15 wrote:

okay it's just how i feel the tv show will go on, i mean the worst thing that would happen is either she'll die or disappeartmntlove says the truth. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">thank you 02:17, December 9, 2013 Mickie15 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: Trigger009 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out.but of course your speculating, you see there is a difference between what people think is gonna happen and what we know is gonna happen. you really shouldnt say that shes not gonna live till the next season because you have know evedence and your gonna confuse people on here. then some people are gonna try too right stuff like that on the pages then people get blocked and banned. so please if your gonna speculate please say that you are speculating so no one gets confused.
 * Mickie15 reply to #38Tmntlove wrote:

okay it's just how i feel the tv show will go on, i mean the worst thing that would happen is either she'll die or disappeartmntlove says the truth.thank you <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">you're welcome. 02:47, December 9, 2013 Tmntlove wrote: Mickie15 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: Trigger009 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out.but of course your speculating, you see there is a difference between what people think is gonna happen and what we know is gonna happen. you really shouldnt say that shes not gonna live till the next season because you have know evedence and your gonna confuse people on here. then some people are gonna try too right stuff like that on the pages then people get blocked and banned. so please if your gonna speculate please say that you are speculating so no one gets confused.
 * Tmntlove reply to #39Mickie15 wrote:

okay it's just how i feel the tv show will go on, i mean the worst thing that would happen is either she'll die or disappeartmntlove says the truth.thank youyou're welcome. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">do you think if shredder dose find her when she leaves he'll use her as ransom 00:46, December 12, 2013 Mickie15 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: Mickie15 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: Trigger009 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out.but of course your speculating, you see there is a difference between what people think is gonna happen and what we know is gonna happen. you really shouldnt say that shes not gonna live till the next season because you have know evedence and your gonna confuse people on here. then some people are gonna try too right stuff like that on the pages then people get blocked and banned. so please if your gonna speculate please say that you are speculating so no one gets confused. okay it's just how i feel the tv show will go on, i mean the worst thing that would happen is either she'll die or disappeartmntlove says the truth.thank youyou're welcome.
 * Vgiannell5 reply to #40Tmntlove wrote:

do you think if shredder dose find her when she leaves he'll use her as ransom <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I doubt it. If he does find her, he'll probably have the Kraang brainwash her into an obedient servant. 01:38, December 12, 2013 Tmntlove wrote: Mickie15 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: Mickie15 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: Trigger009 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out.but of course your speculating, you see there is a difference between what people think is gonna happen and what we know is gonna happen. you really shouldnt say that shes not gonna live till the next season because you have know evedence and your gonna confuse people on here. then some people are gonna try too right stuff like that on the pages then people get blocked and banned. so please if your gonna speculate please say that you are speculating so no one gets confused. okay it's just how i feel the tv show will go on, i mean the worst thing that would happen is either she'll die or disappeartmntlove says the truth.thank youyou're welcome.
 * Mickie15 reply to #41Vgiannell5 wrote:

do you think if shredder dose find her when she leaves he'll use her as ransom   I doubt it. If he does find her, he'll probably have the Kraang brainwash her into an obedient servant. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">hm maybe. 02:53, December 12, 2013 Vgiannell5 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: Mickie15 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: Mickie15 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: Trigger009 wrote: Tmntlove wrote: I'm sorry to say this, but, once she finds out, Shredder will have no use for her. And if Leo is not with the turtles there, they won't believe her and then she'll be on the run. Soon and the most painful part is she promblely won't live till the next season when she finds out.but of course your speculating, you see there is a difference between what people think is gonna happen and what we know is gonna happen. you really shouldnt say that shes not gonna live till the next season because you have know evedence and your gonna confuse people on here. then some people are gonna try too right stuff like that on the pages then people get blocked and banned. so please if your gonna speculate please say that you are speculating so no one gets confused. okay it's just how i feel the tv show will go on, i mean the worst thing that would happen is either she'll die or disappeartmntlove says the truth.thank youyou're welcome.
 * Tmntlove reply to #42Mickie15 wrote:

do you think if shredder dose find her when she leaves he'll use her as ransom   I doubt it. If he does find her, he'll probably have the Kraang brainwash her into an obedient servant.hm maybe. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">they can do that did i miss a episode or was it on there profile 07:54, December 14, 2013 21:59, January 25, 2014 She's likely going to find out in the season 2 finale. She is going to hate Shredder and probably live with her real father and her brothers in the lair. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Hating the Shredder is one thing. But living with the Turtles and Splinter might not happen. She'll probably leave New York to think things through for awhile. 23:47, January 25, 2014 01:35, January 26, 2014 01:41, January 26, 2014 02:47, January 27, 2014 OR maybe she will hate BOTH of them. Splinter for not telling or realising it. And Shredder for the obvios reason. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">hm possibility. 01:48, January 28, 2014 Edited by Leofan13 02:46, January 28, 2014 19:20, January 28, 2014 04:38, January 29, 2014 <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I wasn't mad about that, but I would like to see the story get back to that. There is a pattern to the episodes where some are about all of them, but others focus on the Turtles individually. Ever since Follow the Leader, there hasn't been another episode that focused on Leo. I hope that when the episodes circle around to Leo again that his reaction and what he does next will be explored. 19:27, January 29, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Tmntlove wrote: what do you think the turtles reactions would be? ahh the possibility's are endless. Another thing is anyone else pissed off that they didn't let us see leo's reaction when splinter told him. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I wasn't mad about that, but I would like to see the story get back to that. There is a pattern to the episodes where some are about all of them, but others focus on the Turtles individually. Ever since Follow the Leader, there hasn't been another episode that focused on Leo. I hope that when the episodes circle around to Leo again that his reaction and what he does next will be explored. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">exactly 23:59, January 29, 2014 what do you think the turtles reactions would be? ahh the possibility's are endless. Another thing is anyone else pissed off that they didn't let us see leo's reaction when splinter told him. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I was sort of looking forward to seeing Leo's reaction, but I wouldn't say I was "pissed off" when they didn't show it. Just only slightly disappointed. Edited by Lady Shoko 01:41, January 30, 2014 03:27, January 30, 2014 02:42, February 1, 2014 04:14, February 1, 2014 When she finds out, there is likley going to be a Karai vs. Shredder fight. That is something I am REALLY looking forward to. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Though Shredder will gain the upper hand because he taught her everything he knew. Edited by Vgiannell5 07:37, February 1, 2014 Iron117Prime wrote:
 * Iron117Prime <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">She's likely going to find out in the season 2 finale. She is going to hate Shredder and probably live with her real father and her brothers in the lair.
 * Vgiannell5 reply to #44Iron117Prime wrote:
 * Iron117Prime <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">That also seems likley, but we'll see.
 * Mickie15 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">yeah. ooh I can't wait to see what happens!!
 * SSM4Raphael <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">OR maybe she will hate BOTH of them. Splinter for not telling or realising it. And Shredder for the obvios reason.
 * Mickie15 reply to #48SSM4Raphael wrote:
 * Leofan13 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Like I've said before, she would need to go off on her own for a while to figure it all out. She would have by that point heard two sides of the same story. How could she possibly know who she can trust? She may hate everyone because she won't be able to discern who was actually telling the truth.
 * Tmntlove <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">what do you think the turtles reactions would be? ahh the possibility's are endless. Another thing is anyone else pissed off that they didn't let us see leo's reaction when splinter told him.
 * Mickie15 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">man people are making such good points. it's hard to keep up and who to agree and disagree with.
 * Leofan13 reply to #51<p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Tmntlove wrote: what do you think the turtles reactions would be? ahh the possibility's are endless. Another thing is anyone else pissed off that they didn't let us see leo's reaction when splinter told him.
 * Tmntlove reply to #53<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Leofan13 wrote:
 * Lady Shoko reply to #51Tmntlove wrote:
 * Mickie15 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">me too. man this is getting me fired up to know!
 * Tmntlove <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">I was just so mad I was like and Leo and when the next thing happened I just got angry
 * Iron117Prime <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">When she finds out, there is likley going to be a Karai vs. Shredder fight. That is something I am REALLY looking forward to.
 * Vgiannell5 reply to #58Iron117Prime wrote:
 * Iron117Prime reply to #59Vgiannell5 wrote:

When she finds out, there is likley going to be a Karai vs. Shredder fight. That is something I am REALLY looking forward to.Though Shredder will gain the upper hand because he taught her everything he knew. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">In which Leo or All the Turtles would intervine and help her. Though its most likley going to be just Leo 14:40, February 1, 2014 Vgiannell5 wrote: Iron117Prime wrote:
 * Leofan13 reply to #60<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote:

When she finds out, there is likley going to be a Karai vs. Shredder fight. That is something I am REALLY looking forward to.Though Shredder will gain the upper hand because he taught her everything he knew. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">In which Leo or All the Turtles would intervine and help her. Though its most likley going to be just Leo <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">The others would reluctantly help Leo with her. 17:25, February 1, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Vgiannell5 wrote: Iron117Prime wrote:
 * Tmntlove reply to #61<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Leofan13 wrote:

When she finds out, there is likley going to be a Karai vs. Shredder fight. That is something I am REALLY looking forward to.Though Shredder will gain the upper hand because he taught her everything he knew. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">In which Leo or All the Turtles would intervine and help her. Though its most likley going to be just Leo <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">The others would reluctantly help Leo with her. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">in which don't you think if shredder begins to lose he would call the foot-bots 23:21, February 1, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Vgiannell5 wrote: Iron117Prime wrote:
 * Vgiannell5 reply to #62Tmntlove wrote:

When she finds out, there is likley going to be a Karai vs. Shredder fight. That is something I am REALLY looking forward to.Though Shredder will gain the upper hand because he taught her everything he knew.In which Leo or All the Turtles would intervine and help her. Though its most likley going to be just LeoThe others would reluctantly help Leo with her.in which don't you think if shredder begins to lose he would call the foot-bots <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Or Tiger Claw, Rahzar, and Fishface. 23:25, February 1, 2014 23:31, February 1, 2014 <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Yeah man if this stuff actually happens it's going to be a beasty episode 23:48, February 1, 2014
 * 1 Kudos Iron117Prime <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Either way, Karai vs. Shredder IS going to happen. Most likley by season finale. Leo would probably help Karai; where as Raph, Donnie, Mikey, Splinter, Casey, or any other ally will be fighting Rahzar, Fishface, Tiger Claw, Foot bots, and the Kraang.
 * Tmntlove reply to #64<p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Either way, Karai vs. Shredder IS going to happen. Most likley by season finale. Leo would probably help Karai; where as Raph, Donnie, Mikey, Splinter, Casey, or any other ally will be fighting Rahzar, Fishface, Tiger Claw, Foot bots, and the Kraang.
 * Iron117Prime <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Hopefully we get to see Leatherhead fighting with them.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">When Karai finds out after the fight, she will either want to leave to sort some things out in her head; or go to live with her true family (Splinter, Leo, Donnie, Raph, and Mikey). 23:52, February 1, 2014 23:53, February 1, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Either way, Karai vs. Shredder IS going to happen. Most likley by season finale. Leo would probably help Karai; where as Raph, Donnie, Mikey, Splinter, Casey, or any other ally will be fighting Rahzar, Fishface, Tiger Claw, Foot bots, and the Kraang.
 * Tmntlove <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">first thing I would do is attack shredder Reflex
 * Lady Shoko reply to #65Tmntlove wrote:

Yeah man if this stuff actually happens it's going to be a beasty episode <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I concur! 18:18, February 9, 2014 Tmntlove wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Either way, Karai vs. Shredder IS going to happen. Most likley by season finale. Leo would probably help Karai; where as Raph, Donnie, Mikey, Splinter, Casey, or any other ally will be fighting Rahzar, Fishface, Tiger Claw, Foot bots, and the Kraang.
 * Tmntlove reply to #68<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Lady Shoko wrote:

Yeah man if this stuff actually happens it's going to be a beasty episode <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I concur! <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">what about in today's episode add some April clones in the mix 19:42, February 9, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Lady Shoko wrote: Tmntlove wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Either way, Karai vs. Shredder IS going to happen. Most likley by season finale. Leo would probably help Karai; where as Raph, Donnie, Mikey, Splinter, Casey, or any other ally will be fighting Rahzar, Fishface, Tiger Claw, Foot bots, and the Kraang.
 * Leofan13 reply to #69<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Tmntlove wrote:

Yeah man if this stuff actually happens it's going to be a beasty episode <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I concur! <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">what about in today's episode add some April clones in the mix <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Like April Derp? 05:51, February 10, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Tmntlove wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Lady Shoko wrote: Tmntlove wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Either way, Karai vs. Shredder IS going to happen. Most likley by season finale. Leo would probably help Karai; where as Raph, Donnie, Mikey, Splinter, Casey, or any other ally will be fighting Rahzar, Fishface, Tiger Claw, Foot bots, and the Kraang. Yeah man if this stuff actually happens it's going to be a beasty episode
 * Iron117Prime reply to #70Leofan13 wrote:

I concur!what about in today's episode add some April clones in the mixLike April Derp? <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I believe those all got popped, but the Kraang might make more, thoug it will be EXTREMELY difficult seeing Donnie whiped their computers clean. As well as anything that has to do with April. 03:02, February 12, 2014 04:13, February 12, 2014 04:15, February 12, 2014 Either way Karai is going to HATE Shredder. Like the kind of "I am going to painfully kill you" kind of hate. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">mm-hm. 04:16, February 12, 2014 Edited by Vgiannell5 20:28, March 2, 2014 I did, too! All I have to say is it's about time they came back to that.
 * Mickie15 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">true.
 * Iron117Prime <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Either way Karai is going to HATE Shredder. Like the kind of "I am going to painfully kill you" kind of hate.
 * Mickie15 reply to #73Iron117Prime wrote:
 * Vgiannell5 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">I watched "Wormquake!" online today. In the end, Karai overhears Splinter and the others talking about her being his daughter. Now she'll be torned up between accepting that fact, or think it's a lie.
 * Leofan13 reply to #75<p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote: I watched "Wormquake!" online today. In the end, Karai overhears Splinter and the others talking about her being his daughter. Now she'll be torned up between accepting that fact, or think it's a lie.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Now she has to make a choice to either accept the truth or continue to believe Shredder's lie. Playing both sides is no longer an option. 05:50, March 3, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote: I watched "Wormquake!" online today. In the end, Karai overhears Splinter and the others talking about her being his daughter. Now she'll be torned up between accepting that fact, or think it's a lie. I did, too! All I have to say is it's about time they came back to that. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Now she has to make a choice to either accept the truth or continue to believe Shredder's lie. Playing both sides is no longer an option. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I doubt she'll tell Shredder what she heard until she's certain it's true. 08:35, March 3, 2014 Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote: I watched "Wormquake!" online today. In the end, Karai overhears Splinter and the others talking about her being his daughter. Now she'll be torned up between accepting that fact, or think it's a lie. I did, too! All I have to say is it's about time they came back to that. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Now she has to make a choice to either accept the truth or continue to believe Shredder's lie. Playing both sides is no longer an option. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I doubt she'll tell Shredder what she heard until she's certain it's true. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Most likely, but inevitably she will still have to make a choice. She can't be on both sides. 12:31, March 3, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote: Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote: I watched "Wormquake!" online today. In the end, Karai overhears Splinter and the others talking about her being his daughter. Now she'll be torned up between accepting that fact, or think it's a lie. I did, too! All I have to say is it's about time they came back to that. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Now she has to make a choice to either accept the truth or continue to believe Shredder's lie. Playing both sides is no longer an option.
 * Vgiannell5 reply to #76Leofan13 wrote:
 * Leofan13 reply to #77<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote:
 * Iron117Prime reply to #78Leofan13 wrote:

I doubt she'll tell Shredder what she heard until she's certain it's true.Most likely, but inevitably she will still have to make a choice. She can't be on both sides. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Her final choice isn't likley to happen until the season finale. Even so, I'm sure she'll leave the Foot, especially after she learns who really killed her mother (we all know who that is). 21:00, March 4, 2014 Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote: Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote: I watched "Wormquake!" online today. In the end, Karai overhears Splinter and the others talking about her being his daughter. Now she'll be torned up between accepting that fact, or think it's a lie. I did, too! All I have to say is it's about time they came back to that. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Now she has to make a choice to either accept the truth or continue to believe Shredder's lie. Playing both sides is no longer an option.
 * Leofan13 reply to #79<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote:

I doubt she'll tell Shredder what she heard until she's certain it's true.Most likely, but inevitably she will still have to make a choice. She can't be on both sides. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Her final choice isn't likley to happen until the season finale. Even so, I'm sure she'll leave the Foot, especially after she learns who really killed her mother (we all know who that is). <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Even though we all know that she needs to leave the Foot, I can't shake the feeling that it will not be that simple. She may still feel loyalty to Shredder since he raised her, but will also hate him at the same time. 22:16, March 4, 2014 22:40, March 4, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote:
 * Bostaff <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">She won't care about the shredder once she finds out the truth, which will be a while.
 * Iron117Prime reply to #80Leofan13 wrote:

Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote: I watched "Wormquake!" online today. In the end, Karai overhears Splinter and the others talking about her being his daughter. Now she'll be torned up between accepting that fact, or think it's a lie. I did, too! All I have to say is it's about time they came back to that. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Now she has to make a choice to either accept the truth or continue to believe Shredder's lie. Playing both sides is no longer an option.

I doubt she'll tell Shredder what she heard until she's certain it's true.Most likely, but inevitably she will still have to make a choice. She can't be on both sides.Her final choice isn't likley to happen until the season finale. Even so, I'm sure she'll leave the Foot, especially after she learns who really killed her mother (we all know who that is).Even though we all know that she needs to leave the Foot, I can't shake the feeling that it will not be that simple. She may still feel loyalty to Shredder since he raised her, but will also hate him at the same time. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Seeing how Shredder raised her to kill her REAL father and her life was lie; she will HATE Shredder's guts. I honestly see a fight between them happening. 00:04, March 5, 2014 Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote:
 * Leofan13 reply to #82<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote:

Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote: I watched "Wormquake!" online today. In the end, Karai overhears Splinter and the others talking about her being his daughter. Now she'll be torned up between accepting that fact, or think it's a lie. I did, too! All I have to say is it's about time they came back to that. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Now she has to make a choice to either accept the truth or continue to believe Shredder's lie. Playing both sides is no longer an option.

I doubt she'll tell Shredder what she heard until she's certain it's true.Most likely, but inevitably she will still have to make a choice. She can't be on both sides.Her final choice isn't likley to happen until the season finale. Even so, I'm sure she'll leave the Foot, especially after she learns who really killed her mother (we all know who that is).Even though we all know that she needs to leave the Foot, I can't shake the feeling that it will not be that simple. She may still feel loyalty to Shredder since he raised her, but will also hate him at the same time. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Seeing how Shredder raised her to kill her REAL father and her life was lie; she will HATE Shredder's guts. I honestly see a fight between them happening. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">There will probably be a fight between them, but she is no match for Shredder. Perhaps Splinter would intervene and they would be able to begin fixing their broken life. 04:54, March 5, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote:
 * Iron117Prime reply to #83Leofan13 wrote:

Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote:

Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote: I watched "Wormquake!" online today. In the end, Karai overhears Splinter and the others talking about her being his daughter. Now she'll be torned up between accepting that fact, or think it's a lie. I did, too! All I have to say is it's about time they came back to that. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Now she has to make a choice to either accept the truth or continue to believe Shredder's lie. Playing both sides is no longer an option.

I doubt she'll tell Shredder what she heard until she's certain it's true.Most likely, but inevitably she will still have to make a choice. She can't be on both sides.Her final choice isn't likley to happen until the season finale. Even so, I'm sure she'll leave the Foot, especially after she learns who really killed her mother (we all know who that is).Even though we all know that she needs to leave the Foot, I can't shake the feeling that it will not be that simple. She may still feel loyalty to Shredder since he raised her, but will also hate him at the same time.Seeing how Shredder raised her to kill her REAL father and her life was lie; she will HATE Shredder's guts. I honestly see a fight between them happening.There will probably be a fight between them, but she is no match for Shredder. Perhaps Splinter would intervene and they would be able to begin fixing their broken life. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I see Leo coming to her aid, maybe Spilter too, but I think Leo's more likely 06:10, March 5, 2014 Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote:
 * Leofan13 reply to #84<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote:

Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote:

Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote: I watched "Wormquake!" online today. In the end, Karai overhears Splinter and the others talking about her being his daughter. Now she'll be torned up between accepting that fact, or think it's a lie. I did, too! All I have to say is it's about time they came back to that. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Now she has to make a choice to either accept the truth or continue to believe Shredder's lie. Playing both sides is no longer an option.

I doubt she'll tell Shredder what she heard until she's certain it's true.Most likely, but inevitably she will still have to make a choice. She can't be on both sides.Her final choice isn't likley to happen until the season finale. Even so, I'm sure she'll leave the Foot, especially after she learns who really killed her mother (we all know who that is).Even though we all know that she needs to leave the Foot, I can't shake the feeling that it will not be that simple. She may still feel loyalty to Shredder since he raised her, but will also hate him at the same time.Seeing how Shredder raised her to kill her REAL father and her life was lie; she will HATE Shredder's guts. I honestly see a fight between them happening.There will probably be a fight between them, but she is no match for Shredder. Perhaps Splinter would intervene and they would be able to begin fixing their broken life. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I see Leo coming to her aid, maybe Spilter too, but I think Leo's more likely <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I was going to say Leo, too, but thought it might be too obvious. However, I can see him trying to help. After that last episode, it is clear that as much as he tries to deny it he still cares about her. Although, it is apparently different now. 12:31, March 5, 2014 18:07, March 5, 2014 Karai Is to smart to even think about facing the shredder.. unless she wants to get her butt spanked. Once she finds out the truth, she'll probably won't care about the shredder, since he did lie to her. And she won't be on the turtles side she'll be on her own. We saw how she reacted to Splinter in the season 1 finale. She believed he killed her mother and charged head on itching for a fight, even though she clearly saw Splinter had beaten Shredder.
 * Bostaff <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Karai Is to smart to even think about facing the shredder.. unless she wants to get her butt spanked. Once she finds out the truth, she'll probably won't care about the shredder, since he did lie to her. And she won't be on the turtles side she'll be on her own.
 * Iron117Prime reply to #86Bostaff wrote:

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Once she finds out the truth (she did overhear Splinter, the Turtles, April, and Casey about her being Splinter's daughter) she will be so furious she won't think, she'll attack Shredder with blind rage. And yes she will likley get her butt handed to her, until she gets help from Leo and/or Splinter. 02:46, March 6, 2014 18:14, March 6, 2014 With blind rage? She's a little to smart for that. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">She was raised by her mother's killer, been fed lies all her life, was tricked into trying to kill her true father and adoptive brothers. All that considered, she will be so angry and hateful towards Shredder, she will ignore all logic and attack him with rage and hate. 21:33, March 6, 2014 Too awesome2 wrote:
 * Too awesome2 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">With blind rage? She's a little to smart for that.
 * Iron117Prime reply to #88Too awesome2 wrote:
 * Vgiannell5 reply to #89Iron117Prime wrote:

With blind rage? She's a little to smart for that.She was raised by her mother's killer, been fed lies all her life, was tricked into trying to kill her true father and adoptive brothers. All that considered, she will be so angry and hateful towards Shredder, she will ignore all logic and attack him with rage and hate. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Hopefully Splinter and/or Leo will show up and try to calm her down. 03:54, March 8, 2014 Iron117Prime wrote: Too awesome2 wrote:
 * Iron117Prime reply to #90Vgiannell5 wrote:

With blind rage? She's a little to smart for that.She was raised by her mother's killer, been fed lies all her life, was tricked into trying to kill her true father and adoptive brothers. All that considered, she will be so angry and hateful towards Shredder, she will ignore all logic and attack him with rage and hate.Hopefully Splinter and/or Leo will show up and try to calm her down. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Here's my theory: Karai, Leo, and/or Splinter fight and beat Shredder, she tries to kill him, Leo and/or Splinter stop her and try to calm her down and get her to listen to reason, she is finally convinced and walks away. 04:13, March 8, 2014 Vgiannell5 wrote: Iron117Prime wrote: Too awesome2 wrote:
 * Leofan13 reply to #91<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote:

With blind rage? She's a little to smart for that.She was raised by her mother's killer, been fed lies all her life, was tricked into trying to kill her true father and adoptive brothers. All that considered, she will be so angry and hateful towards Shredder, she will ignore all logic and attack him with rage and hate.Hopefully Splinter and/or Leo will show up and try to calm her down. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Here's my theory: Karai, Leo, and/or Splinter fight and beat Shredder, she tries to kill him, Leo and/or Splinter stop her and try to calm her down and get her to listen to reason, she is finally convinced and walks away. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">That or she will try to get away from Leo and Splinter to think things through and fully calm down. 05:16, March 8, 2014 23:58, March 14, 2014 01:30, March 16, 2014 <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Stubborn, hardheaded, and a rebel. She wants to do things her way and on her own terms. 03:54, March 16, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Creamcheese2 wrote: Maybe, but that will take forever and ever amen. She's very stubborn and hardheaded.
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 * Vgiannell5 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">At first she might try to get what she heard at the end of "The Manhattan Project" out of her head and try to convince herself it's a lie. But that thought will continue to haunt her until she eventually gives in to it.
 * Creamcheese2 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Maybe, but that will take forever and ever amen. She's very stubborn and hardheaded.
 * Leofan13 reply to #95<p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Creamcheese2 wrote: Maybe, but that will take forever and ever amen. She's very stubborn and hardheaded.
 * Vgiannell5 reply to #96Leofan13 wrote:

Stubborn, hardheaded, and a rebel. She wants to do things her way and on her own terms. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Yea. But I doubt those traits are going to last very long once she accepts the truth. 04:48, March 16, 2014 Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Creamcheese2 wrote: Maybe, but that will take forever and ever amen. She's very stubborn and hardheaded.
 * Leofan13 reply to #97<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Vgiannell5 wrote:

Stubborn, hardheaded, and a rebel. She wants to do things her way and on her own terms. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Yea. But I doubt those traits are going to last very long once she accepts the truth. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Hopefully not, but you never know. I mean, Raph has all of those traits, too. 04:54, March 16, 2014 00:09, March 17, 2014 <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Like I said, her way and on her terms. 00:20, March 17, 2014 00:22, March 17, 2014 <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">She will need to believe it first before she can even start talking to Splinter. I mean, how many times has Leo tried telling her about Splinter and she just brushes it off? Edited by Leofan13 00:26, March 17, 2014 00:33, March 17, 2014 <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I think she is starting to believe it, but doesn't want to admit it because even though she often defies Shredder she still feels honor bound to him since he raised her as in other incarnations. 12:51, March 17, 2014 17:02, March 17, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Raph15 wrote: IDK. But seriously is she that thick? I would have started to believe it after I overheard April and the others talking about it.
 * Creamcheese2 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">She wants everything her way. I don't think she wants to be on the turtles side when she has been raised by the shredder all her life. It will a while.. a long while.
 * Leofan13 reply to #99<p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Creamcheese2 wrote: She wants everything her way. I don't think she wants to be on the turtles side when she has been raised by the shredder all her life. It will a while.. a long while.
 * Raph15 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Karai is a lot of things, trust me I can name like twenty, but she is splinters daughter and she will have to talk to Splinter sometime or she'll start beating herself up about it.
 * Leofan13 reply to #101<p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Raph15 wrote: Karai is a lot of things, trust me I can name like twenty, but she is splinters daughter and she will have to talk to Splinter sometime or she'll start beating herself up about it.
 * Raph15 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">IDK. But seriously is she that thick? I would have started to believe it after I overheard April and the others talking about it.
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 * Leofan13 reply to #103<p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Raph15 wrote: IDK. But seriously is she that thick? I would have started to believe it after I overheard April and the others talking about it.
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 * Leofan13 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">You know, I was just thinking that we still don't know what Leo's reaction was after Splinter told him that Karai was really Miwa. We got to see Donnie's, Raph's and Mikey's reactions, but we still don't know how Leo was affected by it. Obviously, he's more determined than ever to not only tell her the truth (which he did -- much to Splinter's dismay), but to actually get her to believe it. However, we still don't know how he feels about it.
 * Iron117Prime reply to #105Leofan13 wrote:

I think she is starting to believe it, but doesn't want to admit it because even though she often defies Shredder she still feels honor bound to him since he raised her as in other incarnations. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">That may be the case NOW, but once she finds out what REALLY happened to her mother, and who really killed her, she will sever ANY ties she has with him and the Foot. 17:03, March 17, 2014 Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Raph15 wrote: IDK. But seriously is she that thick? I would have started to believe it after I overheard April and the others talking about it.
 * Leofan13 reply to #108<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote:

I think she is starting to believe it, but doesn't want to admit it because even though she often defies Shredder she still feels honor bound to him since he raised her as in other incarnations. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">That may be the case NOW, but once she finds out what REALLY happened to her mother, and who really killed her, she will sever ANY ties she has with him and the Foot. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Exactly. That will be when she finally believes it. I was talking about right now. She doesn't seem like she wants to admit that it may actually be true, but is still perhaps wondering "What if...?" 17:06, March 17, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Raph15 wrote: IDK. But seriously is she that thick? I would have started to believe it after I overheard April and the others talking about it.
 * Leofan13 reply to #109<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Leofan13 wrote:

I think she is starting to believe it, but doesn't want to admit it because even though she often defies Shredder she still feels honor bound to him since he raised her as in other incarnations. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">That may be the case NOW, but once she finds out what REALLY happened to her mother, and who really killed her, she will sever ANY ties she has with him and the Foot. Exactly. That will be when she finally believes it. I was talking about right now. She doesn't seem like she wants to admit that it may actually be true, but is still perhaps wondering "What if...?"

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">This was never an issue in other versions. In the 2003 series, she was Shredder's adopted daughter, and it was left at that. I don't really remember much about her in the '87 series. (Perhaps I need to brush up on that version since all the episodes can be found on Youtube now.) 17:10, March 17, 2014 <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Raph15 wrote: IDK. But seriously is she that thick? I would have started to believe it after I overheard April and the others talking about it.
 * Sugilita reply to #109Leofan13 wrote:

I think she is starting to believe it, but doesn't want to admit it because even though she often defies Shredder she still feels honor bound to him since he raised her as in other incarnations.That may be the case NOW, but once she finds out what REALLY happened to her mother, and who really killed her, she will sever ANY ties she has with him and the Foot.Exactly. That will be when she finally believes it. I was talking about right now. She doesn't seem like she wants to admit that it may actually be true, but is still perhaps wondering "What if...?" <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">She is afraid to admit it,because that would hurt her pride and honor. 17:11, March 17, 2014 Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Iron117Prime wrote: Leofan13 wrote: <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Raph15 wrote: IDK. But seriously is she that thick? I would have started to believe it after I overheard April and the others talking about it.
 * Leofan13 reply to #111<p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Sugilita wrote:

I think she is starting to believe it, but doesn't want to admit it because even though she often defies Shredder she still feels honor bound to him since he raised her as in other incarnations.That may be the case NOW, but once she finds out what REALLY happened to her mother, and who really killed her, she will sever ANY ties she has with him and the Foot.Exactly. That will be when she finally believes it. I was talking about right now. She doesn't seem like she wants to admit that it may actually be true, but is still perhaps wondering "What if...?" <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">She is afraid to admit it,because that would hurt her pride and honor. It would do more than that. It would make her question everything and everyone because everything she's known her entire life was a lie.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">It's kind of sad, really. Now I'm starting to actually feel sorry for her. Edited by Leofan13 17:16, March 17, 2014 Edited by Lady Shoko 04:30, May 4, 2014 Stupid Shredder freaking ruins lives. :-/ <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Why didn't Shredder just take up careoke instead of martial arts. 20:29, October 17, 2014
 * Lady Shoko <p style="margin-top:0px!important;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Stupid Shredder freaking ruins lives. :-/
 * ShortswitsoxZ reply to #113Lady Shoko wrote:
 * Iron117Prime <p style="margin-top:0px!important;">Yeah, Karai pretty much hates him now.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">And who can blame her? 21:32, December 17, 2014 Yeah, Karai pretty much hates him now. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">And who can blame her? <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Shredder. 00:46, December 19, 2014 Lady Shoko wrote: Stupid Shredder freaking ruins lives. :-/Why didn't Shredder just take up careoke instead of martial arts.I agree. if shredder was never in the picture, people's lives would be a lot better. for instance- Tang Shen wouldn't be dead and Karai/Miwa wouldn't have been kidnapped and trained to be a deadly ninja assassin.
 * ShortswitsoxZ reply to #115Iron117Prime wrote:
 * Purple500 reply to #114ShortswitsoxZ wrote:

but on the other hand, and these are only opinions

splinter woundn't have come to new york, bought the turtles and, got mutated by the kraang. then our four green heroes wouldn't even have existed.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">but on the other hand, he could have brought his family to new york, they could have bought the turtles as pets for karai, somehow got involved with the kraang and all of them could have been mutated and became one big happy family. 04:55, February 1, 2015 ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Lady Shoko wrote: Stupid Shredder freaking ruins lives. :-/Why didn't Shredder just take up careoke instead of martial arts.I agree. if shredder was never in the picture, people's lives would be a lot better. for instance- Tang Shen wouldn't be dead and Karai/Miwa wouldn't have been kidnapped and trained to be a deadly ninja assassin.but on the other hand, and these are only opinions
 * ShortswitsoxZ reply to #117Purple500 wrote:

splinter woundn't have come to new york, bought the turtles and, got mutated by the kraang. then our four green heroes wouldn't even have existed.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">but on the other hand, he could have brought his family to new york, they could have bought the turtles as pets for karai, somehow got involved with the kraang and all of them could have been mutated and became one big happy family. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">I am not the turtles but I for one would rather be a mindless turtle pet, then a mutant living in the sewers. 21:50, February 3, 2015 Purple500 wrote: ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Lady Shoko wrote: Stupid Shredder freaking ruins lives. :-/Why didn't Shredder just take up careoke instead of martial arts.I agree. if shredder was never in the picture, people's lives would be a lot better. for instance- Tang Shen wouldn't be dead and Karai/Miwa wouldn't have been kidnapped and trained to be a deadly ninja assassin.but on the other hand, and these are only opinions
 * Purple500 reply to #118ShortswitsoxZ wrote:

splinter woundn't have come to new york, bought the turtles and, got mutated by the kraang. then our four green heroes wouldn't even have existed.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">but on the other hand, he could have brought his family to new york, they could have bought the turtles as pets for karai, somehow got involved with the kraang and all of them could have been mutated and became one big happy family.

I am not the turtles but I for one would rather be a mindless turtle pet, then a mutant living in the sewers. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">why, imagine how boring life would be. If you were a mutant life would be exciting, i mean living in the sewers would stink literally but think about going up on the surface and fighting an evil ninja clan, other mutants that are hostile and aliens from another dimension. 05:52, February 4, 2015 ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Purple500 wrote: ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Lady Shoko wrote: Stupid Shredder freaking ruins lives. :-/Why didn't Shredder just take up careoke instead of martial arts.I agree. if shredder was never in the picture, people's lives would be a lot better. for instance- Tang Shen wouldn't be dead and Karai/Miwa wouldn't have been kidnapped and trained to be a deadly ninja assassin.but on the other hand, and these are only opinions
 * ShortswitsoxZ reply to #119Purple500 wrote:

splinter woundn't have come to new york, bought the turtles and, got mutated by the kraang. then our four green heroes wouldn't even have existed.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">but on the other hand, he could have brought his family to new york, they could have bought the turtles as pets for karai, somehow got involved with the kraang and all of them could have been mutated and became one big happy family.

I am not the turtles but I for one would rather be a mindless turtle pet, then a mutant living in the sewers.why, imagine how boring life would be. If you were a mutant life would be exciting, i mean living in the sewers would stink literally but think about going up on the surface and fighting an evil ninja clan, other mutants that are hostile and aliens from another dimension. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Fun to watch, but I don't want to actually do it, I mean if I was raised as a ninja I probably would. 03:59, February 7, 2015 Purple500 wrote: ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Purple500 wrote: ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Lady Shoko wrote: Stupid Shredder freaking ruins lives. :-/Why didn't Shredder just take up careoke instead of martial arts.I agree. if shredder was never in the picture, people's lives would be a lot better. for instance- Tang Shen wouldn't be dead and Karai/Miwa wouldn't have been kidnapped and trained to be a deadly ninja assassin.but on the other hand, and these are only opinions
 * Purple500 reply to #120ShortswitsoxZ wrote:

splinter woundn't have come to new york, bought the turtles and, got mutated by the kraang. then our four green heroes wouldn't even have existed.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">but on the other hand, he could have brought his family to new york, they could have bought the turtles as pets for karai, somehow got involved with the kraang and all of them could have been mutated and became one big happy family.

I am not the turtles but I for one would rather be a mindless turtle pet, then a mutant living in the sewers.why, imagine how boring life would be. If you were a mutant life would be exciting, i mean living in the sewers would stink literally but think about going up on the surface and fighting an evil ninja clan, other mutants that are hostile and aliens from another dimension. Fun to watch, but I don't want to actually do it, I mean if I was raised as a ninja I probably would. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">your right, it is fun to watch but I don't think I'd want to do it either. I mean yeah if you were raised that way but still all those years of long training. I mean I think that alone would kill me. 5 days ago ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Purple500 wrote: ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Purple500 wrote: ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Lady Shoko wrote: Stupid Shredder freaking ruins lives. :-/Why didn't Shredder just take up careoke instead of martial arts.I agree. if shredder was never in the picture, people's lives would be a lot better. for instance- Tang Shen wouldn't be dead and Karai/Miwa wouldn't have been kidnapped and trained to be a deadly ninja assassin.but on the other hand, and these are only opinions
 * ShortswitsoxZ reply to #121Purple500 wrote:

splinter woundn't have come to new york, bought the turtles and, got mutated by the kraang. then our four green heroes wouldn't even have existed.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">but on the other hand, he could have brought his family to new york, they could have bought the turtles as pets for karai, somehow got involved with the kraang and all of them could have been mutated and became one big happy family.

I am not the turtles but I for one would rather be a mindless turtle pet, then a mutant living in the sewers.why, imagine how boring life would be. If you were a mutant life would be exciting, i mean living in the sewers would stink literally but think about going up on the surface and fighting an evil ninja clan, other mutants that are hostile and aliens from another dimension. Fun to watch, but I don't want to actually do it, I mean if I was raised as a ninja I probably would.your right, it is fun to watch but I don't think I'd want to do it either. I mean yeah if you were raised that way but still all those years of long training. I mean I think that alone would kill me. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">Well if you started when you were four then you could ease into it. 22 minutes ago Purple500 wrote: ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Purple500 wrote: ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Purple500 wrote: ShortswitsoxZ wrote: Lady Shoko wrote: Stupid Shredder freaking ruins lives. :-/Why didn't Shredder just take up careoke instead of martial arts.I agree. if shredder was never in the picture, people's lives would be a lot better. for instance- Tang Shen wouldn't be dead and Karai/Miwa wouldn't have been kidnapped and trained to be a deadly ninja assassin.but on the other hand, and these are only opinions
 * Purple500 reply to #122ShortswitsoxZ wrote:

splinter woundn't have come to new york, bought the turtles and, got mutated by the kraang. then our four green heroes wouldn't even have existed.

<p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">but on the other hand, he could have brought his family to new york, they could have bought the turtles as pets for karai, somehow got involved with the kraang and all of them could have been mutated and became one big happy family.

I am not the turtles but I for one would rather be a mindless turtle pet, then a mutant living in the sewers.why, imagine how boring life would be. If you were a mutant life would be exciting, i mean living in the sewers would stink literally but think about going up on the surface and fighting an evil ninja clan, other mutants that are hostile and aliens from another dimension. Fun to watch, but I don't want to actually do it, I mean if I was raised as a ninja I probably would.your right, it is fun to watch but I don't think I'd want to do it either. I mean yeah if you were raised that way but still all those years of long training. I mean I think that alone would kill me. Well if you started when you were four then you could ease into it. <p style="margin-bottom:0px!important;">well that's true. I mean you know, you would grow up doing it everyday so it would feel natural and normal. 7 minutes ago =Live! Chat= <p class="chat-name">TMNTPedia Start a Chat=Related Threads= =Forum Activity=
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