Talk:Carmageddon!/@comment-26761322-20171113160941/@comment-33378883-20171128001954

Nerdlet and Easol1,

I can understand being angry with Nickelodeon. Prior to Mutant Apocalypse, their handling of the show was...unsatisfactory..at times. Especially for such a good show! The hiatus definitely affected my enjoyment of the space arc the first time around. Seriously, it is so much better on DVD without the long gaps in between episodes;  it flows much more smoothly. I nearly lost interest in the show a few times due to the hiatuses. I used to feel bad for Ciro and the other showrunners. But, not anymore. It's not the fans' fault that Nick treated the show this way, and it makes no sense to take their frustration out on people who supported the show. It doesn't excuse such a poorly constructed arc.

Then again....do you think there were plans for a downer/nihilistic ending from the very beginning? Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but remember how all the shows the turtles watched tended to have downer endings? That actually used to make me nervous, until I finally got the chance to watch "Turtles in Time". I thought everything would be fine once Renet described the actual future, but we know how that (almost) turned out. I don't know....

As for Renet...that whole stable time loop in which the turtles save Splinter's life? Wouldn't exist without Renet. Which would mean no TMNT. And she only sought them out because they were "warriors of legend". The canon timeline falls apart without Renet. There is one argument out there that the Turtles could become warriors of legends anyway after MA....despite the fact that Leo was an insane warlord for decades. (also in that case....shouldn't Renet have been expecting Robot!Donnie and massive!Raph and Hulk!Leo;  but she didn't seem surprised by their appearances at all.  Or at all wary of Leo, the turtle formerly known as Maximus Kong.). And I seriously doubt a post-apocalyptic wasteland is going to be able to support a civilization capable of time travel. But, that's just me. That said, a Days of Futures Past scenario would have been cool (loved that movie, by the way).