Thread:Trigger009/@comment-16581186-20151128172836/@comment-995426-20151128204121

UltimateTitan6 wrote: No. But when I say "love interest," I mean characters who are confirmed to have a romantic interest, attraction or relationship with another character and not simply speculated or "implied" to have such. Confirmaton would be things like stating it directly like Leo and Donnie, constantly flirting with the other character, and in some cases kissing on the mouth. Stuff like that. But you know, it's very unlikely that a love interest would frequently refer to the other as "brother", let alone confirmed, if you catch my drift ;]

I mean, unless incest is a new thing with love interests in cartoons. :P Oh good grief...you are not being subtle at all.

"Brother" is also a term of camaraderie. Slash called the Newtralizer "brother." He calls Leatherhead "brother." None of them are actually his brother. Even Raphael was a "brother," not a brother. And Slash was sure as hell a yandere, which is not only a possessive romance trope, but was a bell they couldn't unring when they rang it. Why do you think Raph &times; Slash were all over deviantART and Tumblr in a serious way with a depth of appreciation turtlecest practically never gets? Fans were dead serious about it, and still are.

I'm tired of debating over whether it happened. And because of the way TV shows are made, it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what's been happening in season 4. Writers and producers change. Shows can get retooled every three months. Plots are written and then unceremoniously aborted at someone's whim. The fleeting demographic rule ensures that most of the audience actually forgets what happened two years prior (I'm not even joking about that), and productions exploit it all the time practically any way they like. And now even the 2K12 canon has been split into two licensed but mutually non-canon works, so new events that happen in one didn't happen in other or vice versa. It's become na&iuml;ve to think that this canon has perfect continuity and consistency, as if everything that happened from season 1 to season 4 was preconceived in advance&mdash;it wasn't. They could come out tomorrow rewriting Splinter as being the villain all along and it would make about as much sense as so much of the mindless crap the show has done over the past year.

What happened...happened, and it wasn't all that subtle. And it was also a very different show back then. The style and production priorities were different than they are now. I've completely stopped watching the TV show as it is because it's been getting terrible for the better part of a year. The way the show's written now...just plain nauseates me. And it's bad enough that my once favorite animated series has gotten this bad&mdash;there's really no need to try to rub it in.

And for the record, Karai never actually requited Leo's feelings. She's Leo's love interest, but the plot never actually got to the point of Leo being Karai's love interest. I mean, I was rooting for them, but ultimately Karai just didn't reciprocate in any meaningful emotional way. Even Raph and Slash were already further along than that before their plot was dropped. Lots of things in this show went neglected or were stretched out long past the production's desire to keep revisiting them, and that happens especially in shows that become really toyetic. But at least a plot that doesn't reach fruition is better than plot that's fundamentally badly written.