Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-11469381-20150831022901/@comment-16581186-20151012174805

Gilgameshkun wrote: Well, it's more accurate to say the Archie Comics weren't for people under 13. Though with all of Raph's strong swearing (albeit without F-words) and the occasional pillow talk scene between Raph and Ninjara, you'd be forgiven for thinking it's only for adults. :)



Anyway, for people old enough to remember the 1980s pop culture in general, there was a 1987 movie called Mannequin. The movie bombed with critics, but became something of a camp classic. And one of its supporting characters was this gaudy, flamboyantly gay black man named Hollywood Montrose (played by the late Meshach Taylor), whom 2K12's appears to be at least partially directly modeled on, with some shades of Michael Jackson in his fighting style. And I think drawing on Hollywood Montrose was just freaking brilliant for a new take on such a brightly-purple-clothed, shades-wearing character like Bebop. Watch the Mannequin films, and you may never be able to see Zeck quite the same way again. :) (I've long considered making an 2012 TV series easter egg entry for this, but the problem is that I've been told those require official confirmation, and I'm not even sure how the wiki has been obtaining that.)

As for ...he's very much a man. He's a man's man. He's a man's man's man. &lt;/zapp brannigan&gt; He's mostly invisible to gaydar...until the very moment he's not. In that moment, it's not like he thought he was going to live, or that he could somehow use his enormous weight to keep Bebop anchored to the ground. Steranko is a tsundere who, for a brief moment, dropped his machismo and embraced with Zeck, both knowing that at least they would die with each other. The funny thing is, I don't think they ever had to have previously shared such an affectionate moment (though they easily could have), but the knowledge of imminent death can have a funny way of shifting priorities and bringing true selves to the surface. No offense dude. We all have our own opinions here so don't take this the wrong way. But it seems to me like you believe that a close friendship or affectionate moments between two characters of the same gender are hints that they are gay for each other. tbh regardless of who this Bebop seems to be a reference to, his character is invisible to the gaydar as well especially since he verbally referenced his attraction to women on multiple occasions. Although, after "The Pig and the Rhino" I think it's fair to say he and Steranko had good chemistry as a duo (and not in a gay way) almost as if they were best friends. This was likely due to the experience of how they were in a perilous situation working together to try hiding from the Kraang and having a newfound trust for each other. Plus, Steranko kept referring to Zeck as "comrade", a term that means friend (or one that shares one's activities/occupation but that's over explaining it), even in that black hole scene you were talking about. So even in that moment you said Steranko wasn't invisible to the gaydar, he kinda still was. In retrospect, I would say that both characters are. Bottom line, Bros have soft spots too man. You don't have to be gay to have feelings.