Thread:Gilgameshkun/@comment-16581186-20151129161318/@comment-995426-20151202211448

And that's part of the problem, in my opinion. TMNT should never have been a cartoon show primarily for children to begin with. I like serious TMNT stories with serious teen and adult appeal. I mostly like serious TMNT stories. 2K12 used to have a lot more of them, and I may have na&iuml;vely thought that appeal would last longer than a season or two. I'm not humorless&mdash;I like comedy in moderation&mdash;but I prefer meat with my potatoes, and more drama than comedy is how I've always preferred to take my TMNT.

I've been a fundamentally different kind of TMNT fan for decades. When we can't even agree on what TMNT is, then how can we hope to find common ground?

And FYI, all of my adult good friends who are TMNT fans have fan baggage. It tends to accumulate over the decades. It's rare to find a fan of something for 20, 30+ years who doesn't have fan baggage.