Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31255465-20170923034221/@comment-33165688-20171110174914

TMNTInsighter wrote: While we’re on this topic of studio vs creator(s), if I was ever going to listen to someone it would never be a studio! I mean, why would I? You think I would listen to 20th Century Fox after their interference and ultimate screw up with Alien 3 rather than David Fincher—one of the best directors and filmmakers in the entire business?! Nuh-uh! I’d listen to Josh Trank over them as well. Same thing with Columbia after their interference (and of course subsequent screw up) with both Spider-Man 3 AND The Amazing Spider-Man 2!! New Line Cinema destroyed any chance of success for The Golden Compass while also pretty much destroying Chris Weitz’s career. The list goes on!

These guys aren’t filmmakers, story tellers, artists, etc. They’re businessmen! There’s no way I’d listen to them! I’ve had my disagreements with Nieli throughout the run of the show, but I’d still listen to him over any studio he’d work for-remember, he did get screwed out of a final season for the Hyperforce which even I’m still not happy about.

That being said, whatever any studio head, show runner, filmmaker, or artist says is not a sentence handed down by a judge, it’s not the word of God Himself, it’s just production notes. I mean, I don’t need to listen to any of them! What you see (and hear) on screen has the final say, and that’s what viewer opinions are usually based on. Whether it’d be a documentary (ex. Chaos on the Bridge) or something on the internet, while it may be fun to get an inside scoop on the making of something you either like or something that’s controversial, it shouldn’t mess with your opinions or how you come to them. And I ultimately don’t let it. Whether you would listen to them or not is not relevant; what is relevant is what IS. In this particular scenario the people who made the series are not "creators"; they were hired for a preexisting franchise, playing in someone else's sandbox with someone else's intellectual property, and subject to their judgement. Whether you like it or not, the people who own the franchise make the decisions and get to determine what is what ultimately matters.

As I noted before, showrunners (which is what Nieli was, not a "creator") are not artistic "creators," and they are subject to the judgement of whoever DOES own the franchise. Peter Laird even stated that he was no longer able to determine the canonicity of comics that he oversaw, because the franchise was no longer his but Nick's. And he actually co-created the whole franchise.

And in case you're wondering, at least some of the storytellers and artists who worked on the production don't agree with you on MA either.

And your stance on whether Word of God counts for anything is YOUR OPINION ALONE, not the universal stance. Most people do not share your viewpoint. You can go right ahead and ignore what you want, but kindly do not get upset because other people call an AU an AU.