Talk:Carmageddon!/@comment-26761322-20171113160941/@comment-33378883-20171125210708

Nerdlet

I agree that this arc was not "bittersweet". That would describe Requiem/Owari, which most kids can indeed handle (unless they have lost a parent recently, I would think). Plus, those episodes were actually good! This arc was definitely nihilistic. The story wasn't even that good! Riddled with plot holes and some downright stupid element (bearded turtles *snort*). Your son is not missing anything. If one were to re-watch this series and skip MA,  it would not have any negative impact  whatsoever on the viewing experience. Quite the opposite, in fact. I'm sorry to hear about his friend, though. It does make you wonder how many fellow TMNT fans we've lost thanks to the polished turd. Thankfully, I was not a child when on watched this (or even in my early 20s;  I was in a pretty dark place then). It's baffling to me that people find this arc "daring". I thought it was incredibly lazy. It was nothing more than a Mad Max rip-off, with a sprinkling of "rocks fall, everyone dies". *insert dramatic eye roll*

Easol1,

Let me guess which site that was on.....hmmmm. We discussed this on another thread, but I'm still sorry to hear about your friend. Hopefully, someday, she can ignore the whining of the edgelords and assess the arc for herself;  deciding for herself whether it makes sense in the canon timeline or not. This was such an awesome show....it would be a shame to allow a wannabe edgelord throwing a temper tantrum to ruin something she loves. I absolutely refuse to let him do that to me. Instead, I am taking much delight in referring to the arc as an alternate reality and non-canon, and saying "Nickelodeon is right". Because you know he must love that :D  (yes,  I am a terrible, terrible person).

Now, this may be absolutely no help to her, but this has helped me:  making fun of it. Laughing at the ridiculous flaws. Cracking up at the fact that we were supposed to take this seriously as the canon ending despite the God-awful attempt at storytelling and the insultingly obvious plot abyss. Leo's badly OOC behavior. Bearded turtles. A mutagen bomb that comes out of nowhere. God-awful turtle designs (Warning, smart-aleck alert:   It makes me think that Ciro was jealous of how many fangirls the turtles had.). The moon inexplicably broken into pieces. "Maximumus Kong". *snicker*  I also derive much joy from calling it a "polished turd". Seriously, just analyzing this arc has made me realize how truly, painfully abysmal it is. This non-canon dumpster fire fully deserves all the mockery we can give it. It's hard for something to disturb you if you're busy laughing your rear end off.

By the way, remind me...did she  like Requiem/Owari? If so, that pretty much torpedoes the theory that we all "just want happy endings with rainbows and unicorns". *dramatic eye roll*  Not that unicorns aren't awesome, of course.

One more quick question:  do you think she will be OK watching SAINW. Everybody is different, yes,  but I was.....pretty disturbed when I first watched it. I also had issues with Leo's arc in Season 4 (and major issues with the resolution;  one reason why I only really watch the first 3 seasons). Anyway, I still wish her the best and hope she rejoins the 2012 TMNT fandom someday :)