Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1255374-20150613052057/@comment-6005022-20150803140930

Jadepalacetrainee wrote: Rampagingjaeger wrote: Jadepalacetrainee wrote: ShellBrain wrote: Gilgameshkun wrote: Well, one thing's for certain. I may have overestimated Mikey's heart wisdom, as well as his understanding of himself. He just comes off as so intuitively heart-wise in other episodes. But this episode seemed to retcon a lot of that...which is why I'm still holding out for some kind of time travel twist ending explanation.

One of my friends just told me&mdash;when a show starts to pander to ship fandoms as a significant writing element, it becomes all that easier for that show to derail itself. I think I agree&mdash;relationships should be written in an organic, believable manner. This one wasn't written in very gracefully. You need to stop with your obession over Mikey and Leatherhead... You claim that you see them as gay - but the show has never awknowledged or established that -- Leatherhead is like a pet to Mikey - similar to how Spike was to Raph... there is no romance - CLEAR AS DAY -- we see in this episode Mikey has a thing for Renet -- hearts, gaga eyes - when was this ever done for Leatherhead - - you're simply projecting what you want into their "relationship" and carrying on and on about it when its not a thing. The show has been pretty clear when its a bromance vs when its a romance, so put your gay obsessions aside and take in a deep fresh breathe of reality. Mikey and Leatherhead = bromance - Mikey and Renet = Mikey is clearly romanticly invested and he is smooooooooth. With Leatherhead its like; puppies - puppies "spoon" and sleep on each other all the time, are you going to have a million posts about how you think puppies are gay for eachother too? or how they have a relationship... I hope not. AS I said, you're simply projecting what you want and frankly I find that annoying, its like the people who desperately wanted Donnie and April despite YEARS of turtles always being Casey and April.

You need to accept the fact that what you saw between Mikey and Leatherhead was wrong. Move on and let it go, please... THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Someone finally said it. I was getting real sick of all the gay talk, especially since it is so obvious that Mikey and Raph aren't gay! If Mikey develops a crush on a girl, then he has never been gay, and if Raph is gonna develop a crush on Mona Lisa in the later episodes as evidence has shown, he is not gay either. I seriously want to fist bump you through my computer screen right now dude, thank you!

However, I must say that if the writers' intentions were to make certain characters gay, I would be fine with it if the character actually admitted that they were gay or asked a character of the same sex out, because that was the intention of the writers. ...I'm genuinely curious as to where gilgameshkun is getting all of their ideas from. Not that there's anything wrong with them, at all, it's just...I'm not seeing any of what they're talking about, and I can't fathom how they came to those conclusions. None of them make sense, and frankly, it's beginning to sound like a poorly-written fanfiction. I don't mind other people's fanfictions, as my own fanfics make some big changes. If the writers made Raph clearly admit he was gay, I would be ok with that because the character admitted it. But  since evidence has shown that Raph will fall in love with Mona Lisa in later episodes,then he is clearly straight. Mikey, on the other hand, loves EVERYONE. His brothers, Master Splinter, April, Casey, Leatherhead, and all of their other friends. Mikey's just a lovable person. I can see why someone would mistake that overabundance of love for bisexuality, but only the writers can decide the sexual orientations of the characters. And Peter Laird never cared about the turtle's sexuality,so they most likely are asexual or hetero because it was always hinted they like females.But Nick is being blatant with the crushes,because in the old cartoons the crushes were always subtle.