Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31255465-20170923034221/@comment-33378883-20180119020827

Easol1 wrote: GhostDaGhost wrote: Triceratons probably couldn't of gotten the bomb. According to the flashbacks,  the bomb was lifted FROM New York and then descended upon the city. If the Triceratons returned and made a second attempt on Earth, the EPF would've detected those guys as well as the Utrom. Ever since Tokka VS The World, they were really serious about any incoming ships to Earth ever since. If the arc was non canon, which isn't supposed to be non canon, it wouldn't matter because the Kraang could've survived or something. Since it is canon, there are still possibilities it could be 1987 Krang, his technology is really dangerous and he is/was allied to the Kraang before they disappeared. Well, lots of things can happen in alternate futures and non-canon tales, and since this is one now, and nobody bothered to write in a coherent explanation... no telling. Maybe it was an alternate version of the Kraang. It doesn't seem like something done by 1987 Krang, since he was more interested in ruling than destroying, and he preferred to simply do that by brute force. Indeed. One argument we've seen is that Renet comes from outside of time....except she explicitly states that this is not the case in this incarnation. She literally says in her first appearance "I come from the future". That's not "outside of time". There is no mention whatsoever of Null Time. Humanity is gone in the MA dimension/reality. As far as we know, Renet is human;  there is no way she could exist in this reality since humanity is wiped out. Now, could she be a humanoid alien? Perhaps, but there is absolutely nothing in the show to remotely support that, either. But, the fact remains that she seeks out the Turtles in the first place because they are "Warriors of Legend". The turtles were able to go back in time to save Splinter, thus ensuring their own mutations later on, because they met Renet. Without Renet, the main canon timeline literally falls apart.

Another argument -->Renet confused these turtles with another version of the Turtles. Nope. Savanti Romero and Lord Simultaneous recognized them, too.

I've seen other arguments that the Turtles will create some sort of new "Eden" in that oasis and that will somehow count as saving the world "many times". Despite the fact that the world is a post-apocalyptic wasteland incapable of supporting a civilization that will one day progress enough to develop time travel.

Or that defeating "Maximus Kong" would count as saving the world.....except for the fact that this dimension/reality's version of Leo was Maximus Kong. I find it unlikely that Leo, in this reality, could ever become known as a hero after spending decades conquering the wasteland.

Then, there's this tiny detail....there really is no world left to save. This is basically dead world, or at least one on its very last legs.

Fishface405,

Every series has its flaws. In this case, for the vast majority of the series, the flaws were minor enough that they didn't affect my enjoyment at all. However, in the this arc, those flaws were indeed ramped up and allowed to coalesce in the rancid diarrhea known as Mutant Apocalypse.