Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-36588153-20181016184416/@comment-995426-20181016201949

When it comes to the TMNT I prefer (Mirage, IDW, etc.), yes, the first film was cheesy. I utterly cringe at the totally-radical-righteous-gnarly-cowabunga catchphrase-for-catchphrase's-sake stuff. It may have taken a lot of its plot from Mirage, but the 1987 TV series elements and humor chic put me off.

Also, the "claustrophobic" bit isn't exactly the most respectful or well-aged gay joke. Gay people aren't a punchline to be treated like an adult topic not readily discussed in mixed company. I know that's a judgment that might have been unfair and unrealistic back when the movie was made, but that doesn't mean it's not still 2018 today. There are more tasteful ways to tell jokes that involve gay people. For instance, the humor moment in the 2007 film with Donatello on the phone was not trying to sneak gay people past the radar. "No, I'm not playing hard to get. Sir, this isn't that kind of line." The scene was very much in front of the radar, and to me was more a gag about phone sex rather than about gay people. This may just be my own value judgment, but when I see a situation where someone on the phone thinks they're getting anonymous phone sex, then not only do I generally expect them more likely to be a man than a woman, but the fact that phone sex is in question is by far the racier topic than the combination of genders involved anyway.