Thread:The S/@comment-28672978-20160702175624/@comment-995426-20160703042920

SteadyBlueMonkey didn't like the wording. See Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comments section.

He said:
 * Some TMNT stuff really isn't for little kids.


 * Putting aside the wording of that statement, really? From what I remember even the scenes containing outright murder are pretty tame.

I replied:
 * It's more a question of the article and the series than the content of the individual issue. Before we started using these templates, the general policy was to keep all descriptions more or less G- or maybe PG-rated, out of concern for all the young children coming to read articles about the cartoons.  But some TMNT works have much, much more mature content than that.  For IDW TMNT comics, the "not for little kids" template applies to the entire series and every issue as a combined context.  This way, we can discuss everything in context (and cross-reference events in other issues as needed) and not run into editorial arguments about whether a description is too mature for kids, especially when the description involved may actually be far less mature than what actually happens in the pages.


 * Here, read the notes at Template:Teen and Template:Mature.

Then he replied:
 * That makes a lot more sense, but, and I appreciate this is something that should be left up to democracy, the wording really should be changed to convey that better.


 * As is it looks like an obnoxious dudebro telling "little kids" to stick to their lane when he's talking about Batman's rouges gallery being turned into 80's action figures. Whereas tame as those Foot Soldier deaths are I could get just going with a T for Teen tag for the whole series.


 * The Dr. Who wiki has (or had it's been a while since I checked) a pretty good one. "Most of Dr. Who is family friendly. Some of it isn't. This is one of those." Something to that effect. I do remember the wording would specify when the wiki felt the need to advise viewer discretion and when something objectively wasn't for younger viewers.

Then I replied:
 * It's true, the template does intentionally adopt some informal language. The problem before was that using more formal wording had a negative effect, making the templates look like badges of shame trying to apologize for not being kid-friendly.


 * One thing you need to realize, is that TMNT was, in its original form, never for children, and there are plenty of TMNT fans whose interest has always been through the eyes of adults. In particular, both Mirage Studios and its readers have at times been mocking of the 1987 TV series many of them never liked.


 * But since there wasn't really a deeper discussion of what the wording should be, I guess you can suggest something else. If the message sounds "dudebro," it's because it was meant to emulate some of the grittier hard-boiled tone found in Mirage TMNT dialogue.  And what kinds of characters most personify Mirage gritty and hard-boiled?  Characters like  and, of course. :)

And then you opened this thread on your message wall. :)