Thread:Farceface/@comment-16581186-20160913122920

Hi Farceface,

Huh, I just noticed, I don't think I ever spoke to you on her. WELP- nice to meet ya.

Anyway, me and User:The S have a wee little argument going, and we were hoping if could give some insight.

If you saw Bat in the Belfry, what species do you consider Wingnut and Screwloose to be in the 2012 series?

The S's argument:

Because they're from another planet. If Michelangelo suddenly zapped out of the cartoon and into our world, his species would still be "Sentient Cartoon Turtle" or whatever the analogue of what was written on W&S's would be... his species would still be Mutant Turtle.

The "coming from a comic book" thing would be an origin, not a species.

My argument:

Donatello and Screwloose described them as images brought to life from a page, and obviously, we saw that happen too as they were literally pulled from the pages of that comic book. Species describes what they actually are (in the Turtle reality), not what the canon of the characters' comic book portrays them to be.

Also, if Mikey were suddenly zapped into our reality from the show and was alive, he would not be a "Mutant Turtle" in our reality. He would be a fictional character model created by CGI animation software and was somehow brought to life. He's not a real being, so he would not be a mutant or a turtle in the real world. Just a sentient fictional character that looks like a Mutant Turtle. If we were to describe him in literal terms of the real world, that is what he is.

And I get that "fictional comic book character isn't a species, but I figured "species" in terms of this wiki just mean technically what the person/thing is. Last I checked, "robot" wasn't a species either, but we have it listed as one on every robot's page. 