Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1255374-20160227224555/@comment-1450971-20160708061413

Edward18517 wrote: '''The animation in the '80s universe is choppy to poke fun at how bad some of the old animation was in episodes. Plus, there will never be an exact match since 2D animation is digitally created now vs. cel-based animation.''' That's part of the problem for me. That it was "deliberately" making fun of it. I know Forever did it, but that was in the acting department (not to mention the fact that they really did start getting that goofy later on). When it came to animation it was on par with, and even better a lot of times, than the "Neutrinos" episode of the original cartoon. They moved and animated like the Turtles. The ones in this special do not, and it kinda throws me off. I'd rather there not be jabs at all towards the original in many cases, but if there are going to be I prefer it to be something about how goofy it got story/character wise rather than something that isn't that pleasant to look at.

As for the inconsitencies in Krang's backstory, you don't have to take it canonical to the old series (which was somewhat loose with continuitt anyway) but just accept it for this episode.

Like I said, it's obviously just an excuse plot for the episode, and it wasn't that intrusive. BUTTTT my mind still kept trying to tap me on the shoulder with how much the episode was screwing up. It was just annoying enough inconsistencies to make it start get annoying for me, especially after how amazingly Forever handled the multiverse situation.

'''The reason for the "no Shredder" should be fairly obvious, but in case it isn't, let me spell it out. You can't have a "nostaglia" Shredder in an episode when the voice actor who played him for a large part of the 80's series is no longer with us.'''

That's obviously the explanation, but even then, Krang just doesn't work that well, ESPECIALLY in a scenario where they're kinda messing up what he is, without his partner for me. At the least you could get the Forever voice actor.

'''Finally, it's fairly clear that "Turtles Forever" didn't happen in this version of TMNT. Think of this episode as a replacement for that movie.'''

That sounds like complete and utter blasphemy to me.

Now I'm fully behind the "alternate 80s cartoon" idea, but this episode is clearly trying to work off the 80s cartoon itself, which just doesn't jell with me. Hence my criticism. This is almost exactly how I feel about this, and why Phelous failed to see why Trans-Dimensional Turtles is way worse compared to Turtles Forever... and yes, The way I see Trans-Dimensional Turtles is that it's everything that Phelous said in his Turtles Forever review, except it DID happen in this crossover!

What Phelous failed to see was look into RowdyC's Turtles Retrospective (from the Fred Wolf Series to the 4Kids series... minus the comics), to the point where RowdyC review's Turtles Forever, and see that both continuites were poking fun of themselves, not just the 4Kids continuity poking fun of the Fred Wolf continuity: RowdyC even showed that the Fred Wolf Turtles used their Exploding Ninja Stars to stop Ch'rell before Bebop and Rocksteady put the Plug back in... it's bad when one reviewer showed the importance of a plot device, when the other reviewer does not.

Looking at Trans-Dimensional Turtles, I feel insulted to watch it. The Fred Wolf Turtles not standing up against the Nick Turtles for the constant insults? Having everything that they hold dear (including the "Turtle Power" Battle Cry) stolen by someone who thinks they're better than their predecesors? Krang being from a Modern Show and not an Older one? The Mirage Turtles not caring about the situation than they do in Turtles Forever? It's like one of the Creators did better research on the Fred Wolf TMNT cartoons that he didn't know much about, than a corporation who wants to cash-in on it's original success, especially considering that Viacom is using TMNT as a means of a tax scheme. Viacom should burn in a fire.