Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31255465-20170923034221/@comment-33165688-20171018010456

Fishface405 wrote: TMNTInsighter, you can of these episodes however you want, whether you pretend they exist or not. But just so you know, Think of how much of a better ending "End Times" was. The Turtles got to fight the Shredder one last time, they saved the city, send a demodragon back to hell, see Splinter one last time and the Foot Clan even made a truce with the Turltes. I say after all they've done, killing the Kraang, stopping the Triceratons from invading Earth and defeating the Foot Clan, mission accomplish...

Now with this Mutant Apocalypse ending, it's like all their hard work was for nothing. In the end, everyone got mutated, and they all live in a hellish desert. Sure, they did find the oasis in the end, but think of how bored their gonna get in there for the next 100 years or so.

I'm not saying the MA was completely horrible, but it was just depressing. And I think "End Times" should've been the true ending for the series. In fact, I considered ALL season 5 episodes (except for the Kavaxas arc of course) to be non-canon. Not to mention that they would have spent most of their lives apart and miserable, suffering from varying degrees of mental illness. And like you said, it effectively makes everything else they did meaningless.

End Times was the right combination of sad and happy, and it wrapped up things neatly without contradicting anything we were told about what was ahead of them or making their struggles feel pointless.