Talk:Oroku Saki (2012 TV series)/@comment-9056013-20170111040109/@comment-16581186-20170111133732

I agree with all of that (if by "little else" you mean nothing else) except the Utrom Shredder being an abomination.

The Utrom Shredder is hands down the best Shredder in all of TMNT. You want plans? Ch'rell succeeded in taking over the entire world, but that wasn't even enough for him so he took over other worlds and almost succeeded in destroying an entire multiverse worth of turtles. This guy ALWAYS thinks large scale and in many cases succeeds. He is the most ruthless, tactical, and perseptive tyrant in all of TMNT lore and by far the best Shredder.

A one-dimentional bag of muscles who only cares about settling a 15 year old grudge with one person is far from an improvement.